The question is too vague, what mg per pill is the tbol?
Arite guys so ive decided what im going to be running on my course yep you got it test tren and tbol for 10 weeks just a quick question about the tbol Testren 2ml a week Monday - Friday. And 5 anaver a day. Pct- 300ius every 4 days and then after my course start the clomid 20mg every day for 2weeks.. my question is, is 5 tbol a day for 10 weeks too much! any advice would be great! oh yeah ill be throwing on loads of milk thistle of course..
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The question is too vague, what mg per pill is the tbol?
You are all over the place with this cycle brother. 2ml a week? How much of each? Are you putting tren and test in the same jab or something?
300ius of HCG? Is that what your talking about? I wouldn't really recommend it during your PCT, HCG can also be suppressive to natural test production. Like the above poster said, what mg per anavar and tbol? Also 20mg of clomid is way too weak...
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Yes, you need to be more specific. Answer these questions, and I will help you:
Stats? Age/height/weight/BF%/cycle history/training history
What kind of Test? (C, E, Prop?)
What kind of Tren (A, E, Hex)
What is the 300ius of?
Are you saying your PCT is clomid 20mg ED for two weeks?
Are you running both T-bol and Anavar?
I really don't know what your plans are, but I know 10 weeks on any oral is not cool.
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rite guys i realise i messed up on that op, well GMO its a test E and tren E its a blend in the one bottle called test tren, 300ius of hgc from when the course begins, t bol only i did not mean to put anavr in there! yeah its clomid for 2 weeks after ive finished the course as i will be running hgc throughout! stats 5'7 weigheing about 170lb ectomorph training 3 years alreadys done 2 cycles they were right when i started training yeah stupid i know but i did it and i didnt do any pct at all so i know about crashing after a course i got test flu and everything thats what i get for listning to a source who i thought was a friend courses i done were both test e 10 weeks one only test e other with deca yep no pct on either yes i am a clever boy.. and i hav not juiced in 7 monts but my diet is the best its ever been i know the whole 1 and a halg grams of protien ect blah blach i know the importance of the diet!
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22 years old mate honest opinion on the course im planning i just need advise as of how to improve it ontop of the courses i told you i have already done ive also taken mastabol 100 andropen 275 and test prop! all with no pct and ive lived to tell the tale i know im an utter fucking idiot for doin it with no pct.
I learned the hard way.. i will never run a course without it all on hand just looking for advise and maybe suggestions and advise would be genuinly appreciated..
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cmon guys any advise on this course would be great i get my stuff tomorow but im not starting it till following week just want to make sure im doing every thing the best way and y ou guys know ur stuff im a lil![]()
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You still never said the mg/pill of the tbol.

I ran 60mg ed of tbol for 6 weeks and barely noticed any gain, 10 weeks is likely a bit too long for that. I would suggest a different oral from my own experience.
Why not show a little sense and try to type a few complete sentences.
It's bad enough no one wants to do anything for themselves but is it getting to the point where people are so damn lazy they can't type a fucking readable sentence.
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This.
I think I'm slightly dumber after reading that.
To the OP, lay out your cycle like this and you'll get the answers you need:
Wk1-4 IronMagLabs Cyanostane Rx 2 caps daily
Wk1-8 Test E -500mg
Wk8-11 IronMagLabs Super DMZ 2 caps daily
Wk8-11 Test E-750mg
Wk12-15 Test E 1000mg
Wk15-17 Winstrol 50mg ED
Wk1-15 hcg 250iu-500iu x2/wk
Wk1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Wk18-21 Clomid 100/100/75/50
Wk18-21 Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
Wk18-21 IGF-1 LR3 75mcg ED
Wk18-21 IGF DES 75mcg Post Workout
Ok right well first of i apoligise for my poor grammer i have got my stuff here now but have not got my hgc clomid and tamoxifen till next week so wont start untill then.. in my defence i have been writing these posts in the 5 min time frame i have in the morning before work as ive been working like a dog just to pay the bills! so yes i have been rushing.
Any way here goes hopefully you guys can let me know if this sounds good/bad ect
Im 22 trainng for 3 years my diet is 3000 + daily with 250g of protein a day
done 2 courses before as i described above!
I have got a blend of test e at 200mg and tren e 100mg per bottle, also have 200 tbol tabs at 10mg each.
Heres what i am planning to run,
Week 1-10 test blend at 2cc a week (600ml)
week 1-10 tbol 50mg a day (might change as i here 10 weeks is too long for a oral)
week 1-10 hgc 400iu every 4 days
week 10 -12 clomid 50/50 day after cycle.
Yes i am prepeard to get fuckiing slaughterd by you guys who have been juicing for years on end and know the ins and outs of courses but im just a young un to this stuff and im thinking of this as my first proper cycle as before my diet and training wernt up to much on the other cycles and i did no pct whatsoever.. so my test levels must have been all over the place i learned from them mistakes and wont let it happen again.
Ive made my decision and i will be running a course i just want everything down to a tea this time before i start.. as with the pct i was advised to run only 20mg of clomid for 2 weeks after cycle but i was thinking that would not be enough judging ppls pct on here?
The tamoxifen is just there in the case that gyno symptoms occour.
Please guys just leave the negative stuff and unless you have helpfull advise keep it to your self.
And remember we all had to start somewere, and once my course is planned out 100 % i will start a online journel with pics.
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Here is my advice:
You are not ready yet. At 22 years old you only weigh 170. You absolutely need to learn how to put on muscle through diet and proper training first. You aren't there yet.
But, you are young and you already ordered your gear. I have a feeling that you will do what you want regardless of what anyone says. It's very unfortunate.
Best of luck in your cycle sir.

Round 2. Here goes...
A. You fucked up when you got your "blend". Sell that shit. What if you can't handle the tren sides? You'd have to stop and now you have no test. Not a smart move.
B. Tbol for 10 weeks?!?! You've done zero research. Step away from the steroids.
C. Your pct is crap. This seems to be a theme with you. The absolute most important part of a persons cycle and you know about as much about it as you do grammar.
D. Who told you that having 3 compounds for a first cycle was a good thing?
You have a long way to go before you are ready for steroids. You are 1000% not ready both physically or mentally for this cycle.

That pct is not good at all. Have you cycled before?
mate, go fuck yourself.
How did i fuck up getting this blend? please explaine mister kno it all..
Zero research hahahahah rofl all i do is research every day u cock smoker
It is not my first cycle if you would have read the previous posts you would know this haha and i get called lazy..
im 2 million % ready for this mentally and if you knew any thing im 178lb actullay and have put on a stone and a half in 2 years through diet and training so ur mistaken!
why not try and give me helpfull advise like yeah you should run ex amount of clomid for your pct or why dont u just run the blend only without tbol ect ..
And for that stupid what if your not ready for tren sides comment hahaha have you done tren before? ... im guessing you have, you can understand that what if is such a fuckin stupid thing what if you walk out ur house and get hit by a bus what if you get cancer what if your girl is sucking my cock and kissing you on the lips!.. we cant sit and worry about the what ifs the only way you know is if you try it...
Stick your negative comments were the sun dont shine mother fucker!
Dont critise me just try and help! jeeezz some ppl....
seriously we all start sum were last thing i need is some dick head telling me im not ready yeah i know im not 100% ready that why im asking for advise!!!! fuckin hell is that so hard to comprihend!
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Through every dark night, theres a bright day - pac

I asked a question, I guess you aren`t lookin for help. I had trouble reading your jumbled poor gramar and format so i hadn`t seen that you had cycled before. Enjoy messing yourself up bud.

The suggested pct lead me to believe you had never cycled because you were looking at doing such a weak and short pct. Also I am not American.you asked a question that i have already answerd in the thread? man u guys are a bunch of unhelpfull assholes probly yankees that explains it![]()

Most people run atleast 4 weeks of pct, the combination of Clomid with Nolva is also better than just Clomid. I run my pcts like this:
Weeks
1-2 Nolva 40mg ed Clomid 50mg ed
3-4 Nolva 20mg ed Clomid 25mg ed
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