Thread: How should I stack My EQ for my first cycle?

The same as deca

You should read my response in your thread Bold 200 you just started.

The amount of EQ is worthless, I ran 600mg/week and couldnt even feel anything.

It's not enough EQ. EQ should be ran at least 400mg, (preferably 500-600mg) for at least 14-16 weeks, preferably a bit more. Its effects take a long time to manifest. It wouldn't be until Week 7 or later that you would begin to notice increased vascularity and other effects associated with EQ. I would get more EQ to at least match the doses and length laid out above. Otherwise, save it until you can get more. It was a nice gesture by the source to give this to you but more is required to run it properly. And all and any gear should be ran properly and only properly.

There are several more questions you need to answer if you're looking for advice on your first cycle. To begin with; your stats. That is, age (you should be at least 23), height/weight/BF%, workout/weight training history (you should have been lifting naturally for a while and have a strong base). What is your diet like? Have you researched what a cycle of aas requires in order to get the most out of it? Your daily caloric intake will need to increase, protein intake will need to increase to around 2grams per lb of bodyweight. Diet must be squared away or you'll leave a lot on the table. Do you have an AI? PCT plan? Everything should be squared away, all i's dotted and t's crossed prior to using aas.

If everything else is in order, you have a strong foundation already and you're not too young, I'd advise - as would many others - to run a test only cycle for the first time around. This will ensure you can gauge side effects, etc. without having to guess which product is responsible. First timers usually go with 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks as you laid out. But re-read my post and make sure everything is in order.

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

Ima be running 10 weeks of Test E @ 500 Mg split 2x a week
I was hooked up a free 15 Ml Vial of EQ 100Mg/ML

How would I stack this? BTW this is also my first cycle

When I had Test E, I started with 1,000mg and then did 500mg every 5 days because that's the half life to maintain the level.

When I had Test E, I started with 1,000mg and then did 500mg every 5 days because that's the half life to maintain the level.

Huh? that doesn`t seem right to me, every 3.5 days is pretty good for keeping levels fairly stable but every 5th day is pushing it.

Originally Posted by redz

Huh? that doesn`t seem right to me, every 3.5 days is pretty good for keeping levels fairly stable but every 5th day is pushing it.

Depends on the test, I think Cyp is E3, and Prop is EOD. Sustanon is long too.

Originally Posted by Vick

Depends on the test, I think Cyp is E3, and Prop is EOD. Sustanon is long too.

This guys is a joke he wants all oral cycles but then talks about test inj. But he said he can't do injections in an older thread he's an idiot!

Originally Posted by d-latsky

this guys is a joke he wants all oral cycles but then talks about test inj. But he said he can't do injections in an older thread he's an idiot!

+1

my EQ is dosed at 300mg/ml and i'm injecting twice weekly. Its works great and I definitely feel the hunger pains lol. 600mgs seems to be the sweet spot.

Originally Posted by underscore

+1

Sounds like you're writing a report, glad you dont know anything about me for sure.

If you have little EQ and it's your first cycle. I'd say skip the EQ. Why take a chance on getting sides when the EQ won't even do much for your gains?

Originally Posted by BigBird

It's not enough EQ. EQ should be ran at least 400mg, (preferably 500-600mg) for at least 14-16 weeks, preferably a bit more. Its effects take a long time to manifest. It wouldn't be until Week 7 or later that you would begin to notice increased vascularity and other effects associated with EQ. I would get more EQ to at least match the doses and length laid out above. Otherwise, save it until you can get more. It was a nice gesture by the source to give this to you but more is required to run it properly. And all and any gear should be ran properly and only properly.

There are several more questions you need to answer if you're looking for advice on your first cycle. To begin with; your stats. That is, age (you should be at least 23), height/weight/BF%, workout/weight training history (you should have been lifting naturally for a while and have a strong base). What is your diet like? Have you researched what a cycle of aas requires in order to get the most out of it? Your daily caloric intake will need to increase, protein intake will need to increase to around 2grams per lb of bodyweight. Diet must be squared away or you'll leave a lot on the table. Do you have an AI? PCT plan? Everything should be squared away, all i's dotted and t's crossed prior to using aas.

If everything else is in order, you have a strong foundation already and you're not too young, I'd advise - as would many others - to run a test only cycle for the first time around. This will ensure you can gauge side effects, etc. without having to guess which product is responsible. First timers usually go with 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks as you laid out. But re-read my post and make sure everything is in order.

Exactly^^^

Originally Posted by d-latsky

this guys is a joke he wants all oral cycles but then talks about test inj. But he said he can't do injections in an older thread he's an idiot!

+1000

Sounds like a poser...

True on Vick . lol I would say the easiest way to stack EQ for your first cycle is to not stack it. First cycle should be test only. Otherwise how would you know how your body is going to react to the test? Why do people feel the need to stack their first cycle? Why do people feel like test is not enough for a first cycle?

Yep not enough EQ to do anything plus ur first cycle...skip it. If u eat and train right ur test results will blow ur mind

"typically stack with Test Cypionate which I would inject twice weekly, so I would just shoot the heavy long esters with the testosterone.

2 times per week on EQ, or Deca for that matter but once weekly is fine."(heavyiron)

Originally Posted by Vick

"typically stack with Test Cypionate which I would inject twice weekly, so I would just shoot the heavy long esters with the testosterone.

2 times per week on EQ, or Deca for that matter but once weekly is fine."(heavyiron)

I fail to see what this has to do with pinning test E E5D.

I don't want to be hard on you, 'cause I know you're just sticking up for yourself, but you've got a lot to learn (as we all do) and should probably show a bit more humility to the guys who know what they're talking about and only have YOUR best interests at heart.

Twice per week and every 5th day are very different.

Originally Posted by Hench

I fail to see what this has to do with pinning test E E5D.

I don't want to be hard on you, 'cause I know you're just sticking up for yourself, but you've got a lot to learn (as we all do) and should probably show a bit more humility to the guys who know what they're talking about and only have YOUR best interests at heart.

Try staying on topic, use pm if you got something to say to me. test is test.

Allright guys, after tons of research this is the cycle I have decided to take for my first. please critique

Cycle:
Weeks 1-3 : Kickstart - D-bol 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10 : 500 Mg Test E EW split on Monday & Thursday (Only have 5000Mg Worth, Would it be better to pin 450 EW for 11 Weeks?)

PCT * Weeks 13-16 :
CLOMID : 100/75/50/50 ED
Aromasin : 25/25/12.5/12.5 ED
Nolvadex : 20/20/10/10 ED

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

Allright guys, after tons of research this is the cycle I have decided to take for my first. I've said this before & i'll say it again, please critique

Cycle:
Weeks 1-3 : Kickstart - D-bol 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10 : 500 Mg Test E EW split on Monday & Thursday

PCT * Weeks 12-15 :
CLOMID : 100/75/50/50 ED
Aromasin : 25/25/12.5/12.5 ED
Nolvadex : 20/20/10/10 ED

If you could add Proviron week 1-10 that would free up more test, block some estrogen and harden the retention. I would do the Nolvadex week 1-10 instead as it is a blocker to prevent gyno from even starting.

Yeah I was thinking about taking Nolva, my twin bro recently finished his first cycle & ended up with some vicious bitch tits. Definitely aint gon let that happen to me!

& proviron? maybe leave that for next time, it's my first cycle plus I'd like to keep my hair lol. my fivehead is bad enough :l

& Btw would it be better to run 450 for 11 weeks or 500 for 10 weeks? since it's a long lasting esther & all wouldn't it be best to run it for 11 weeks?

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

& Btw would it be better to run 450 for 11 weeks or 500 for 10 weeks? since it's a long lasting esther & all wouldn't it be best to run it for 11 weeks?

Personally i think receptor downgrade starts for any steroid after 3 weeks, so shorter is always better. I would try trading off the extra for something else.

Originally Posted by redz

The amount of EQ is worthless, I ran 600mg/week and couldnt even feel anything.

interesting. @ 400mg a week i loved it.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

True on Vick . lol I would say the easiest way to stack EQ for your first cycle is to not stack it. First cycle should be test only. Otherwise how would you know how your body is going to react to the test? Why do people feel the need to stack their first cycle? Why do people feel like test is not enough for a first cycle?

I love you but

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deca
dbol

This is a first cycle.

My first cycle even had tren at the end.

I also ended up in the hospital with two fucked up shoulders.

If you could add Proviron week 1-10 that would free up more test, block some estrogen and harden the retention. I would do the Nolvadex week 1-10 instead as it is a blocker to prevent gyno from even starting.

That sounds very un-necessary. Ai's are better to run than serms on cycle anyways.

interesting. @ 400mg a week i loved it.

Not sure but that stuff really felt light, have you ran tren before? Maybe I`m just to used to the tren.