Thread: 2nd cycle advice

Originally Posted by HardCharger_84

So I am going to be starting my second cycle, one of these two options depending on $ I have done other cycles but its been a while so lets just say this is my 2nd

750mg a wk of test E in two injections wk 1-16
600mg a wk of deca in two injections wk 1-15 mixing both in one shot each time
100mg of probley dbal ed for the first 6 wks or mayb 75mg of anadrol ed for 6wks

the other option which is cheaper is
600mg a wk of test e in two injections wk 1-12
300mg a wk of deca in two injections wk 1-10
and the same idea with the orals and i have my pct planed out already

So what do u guys think. I want strength and mass gains im looking to keep bulking im 5'9 weigh 175 up from 150 ish from my last cycle and ive been lifting on and off for 11 yrs im 26 yrs old I would like to get around 200 pds 10% bf but if its not that low i dont care and my max bench is 340. Option 1 or option 2 for the results i want thanks 4 the advice guys.

100mg dbol sounds high to me, maybe someone with more experience would have a different opinion

also strong ass bench for 175 lber, makes me feel like shit lol

Originally Posted by HardCharger_84

So I am going to be starting my second cycle, one of these two options depending on $ I have done other cycles but its been a while so lets just say this is my 2nd

750mg a wk of test E in two injections wk 1-16
600mg a wk of deca in two injections wk 1-15 mixing both in one shot each time
100mg of probley dbal ed for the first 6 wks or mayb 75mg of anadrol ed for 6wks

the other option which is cheaper is
600mg a wk of test e in two injections wk 1-12
300mg a wk of deca in two injections wk 1-10
and the same idea with the orals and i have my pct planed out already

So what do u guys think. I want strength and mass gains im looking to keep bulking im 5'9 weigh 175 up from 150 ish from my last cycle and ive been lifting on and off for 11 yrs im 26 yrs old I would like to get around 200 pds 10% bf but if its not that low i dont care and my max bench is 340. Option 1 or option 2 for the results i want thanks 4 the advice guys.

5'9" 175 and you bench 340?

Sniff sniff... I smell something that smells like bullshit.

Originally Posted by M4A3

5'9" 175 and you bench 340?

Sniff sniff... I smell something that smells like bullshit.

Why? I am six feet tall. I dieted down from 206 pounds to 181, then slowly worked my way up to 186 pounds before starting my first cycle. I was benching 275 for 5 reps at the start of the cycle (I have been stronger and weaker before). I bench with good form and lower the bar slowly. I am three inches taller than the poster, and weighed at the time only nine pounds more.

It could be that his legs are lacking and bench is his favorite exercise.

My comment to him is this - be careful pushing that weight up too fast on cycle. I was on my third rep with 315 (weighing 201) a little over a week ago when I hurt my shoulder . . . and it felt light with no warning that anything bad was about to happen!

Originally Posted by HardCharger_84

I have done other cycles but its been a while so lets just say this is my 2nd

Huh? You're 26. How long ago could it have been? And "cycles" is plural, so this has to be more than your second.

So what do u guys think.

I think that either one is a lot for a first or "second" cycle. Why not just 500 or 600 mg a week of test?

I think the rules declare that your cycle history is required for advice.

There is no reason for me to lie about how much I bench M4A3 I really dont think its all that great, but for u not to beleive me that makes me wonder if u have any clue what your doing at the gym, but this is really besides the point. And malfeasance yes I said ive done more then two cycles in my first post it was four yrs ago. I would really just like some other peeps mayb give some advice on the two options, thanks for ur advice so far though malfeasance and hopefully mr sniff sniff starts hitting the gym alot more lol

i think your dosages are way too high

750mg of test for a 2nd cycle... so 1g of test for your third ?
plus half a gram of deca
plus 100mg of dbol...

dunno if you plan to turn pro in any sport but these are already high dosages


for a 2nd cycle, i wouldn't go beyond 50mg of dbol ED, 100mg is way too much
if you're using anapolon, just go with 50mg ED, it's a really, really strong product

these are only advises, do waht you wanna do mate

but no matter what you plan to do, do not take high dosages of orals for more than 4 weeks, except if you wanna change your liver.

Whoa, I'm with the others, seems way to much for a 2nd cycle, specially the orals. I would suggest a simple 10 or 12wk test e 500mg/wk, dbol 50mg/dy (wks 1-4) cycle. When I did my first cycle 10yrs ago, everyone was always told simpler is better. The general thinking was once you run a certain amount of gear you'd have to go higher the next time to see results. So sure you could go all out like you want, but just think of the amounts you'd have to use next time. What I've been doing is adding only 1 compound each cycle, depending on results & sides. 1st cycle was test only, 2nd test & winni, 3rd will be test/eq/dbol. You're young & got plenty of time to work up to the type of cycle you wanna run. Relax, take a step back and keep it simple

Originally Posted by Testoman98

Whoa, I'm with the others, seems way to much for a 2nd cycle, specially the orals. I would suggest a simple 10 or 12wk test e 500mg/wk, dbol 50mg/dy (wks 1-4) cycle. When I did my first cycle 10yrs ago, everyone was always told simpler is better. The general thinking was once you run a certain amount of gear you'd have to go higher the next time to see results. So sure you could go all out like you want, but just think of the amounts you'd have to use next time. What I've been doing is adding only 1 compound each cycle, depending on results & sides. 1st cycle was test only, 2nd test & winni, 3rd will be test/eq/dbol. You're young & got plenty of time to work up to the type of cycle you wanna run. Relax, take a step back and keep it simple

^^^This is good advice...