Thread: Straight up strength

tren. no doubt

can't vote since I never ran tren but a Deca/test cycle gave me the biggest strength increases compared to anything else. Deca was ran at 300mg/week for 12 weeks. Front loaded for the first 2 weeks since I had extra gear.

~100lb increase on DL
~100lb increase on Box Squat
and great improvements on everything else across the board

no brainer bro.. TREN

Tren. Well I can speak from my experience of gp tren!

Tren is the best but make sure you at least double the test. Tren will kill your testies otherwise.

Tren is the best but make sure you at least double the test. Tren will kill your testies otherwise.

I`m going to try out a low test high tren cycle next go around, alot of people say sides are lower doing it this way. I am thinking of running 250mg Test E with 750mg Tren E.

Originally Posted by redz

I`m going to try out a low test high tren cycle next go around, alot of people say sides are lower doing it this way. I am thinking of running 250mg Test E with 750mg Tren E.

never tried tren but from what ive read about it, this sounds like very bad dosing idea. and most experienced tren user ive noticed only use 400-500mg. 750mg is going to MESS YOU UP. triple the dose of test

I've ran up to 525mg tren-a. Strength was insane. Bench went up about 80+lbs by the end of the 12 weeks.

Never done Deca, which is why I created the poll.

Sounds like Tren is better on Str though.

As for the low test, high tren. I think it would be ok. Considering the Tren dick problems are related to progesterone and not low test. Even though 250mg of test is not considered low when relating to natural test production.

Lots of misinformation in this thread by guys that are simply repeating what they heard from someone that heard something.
Use low dose test. Enjoy your cycle. Don't listen to people that don't know what they are talking about.

My only recommendation is that you start lower on your tren though. No need to start off so high. You'll enjoy yourself on far less.

never tried tren but from what ive read about it, this sounds like very bad dosing idea. and most experienced tren user ive noticed only use 400-500mg. 750mg is going to MESS YOU UP. triple the dose of test

I don`t think the tren will be a problem sides have been virtually non existent for me other than night sweats even at 600mg/week.

Is this just between tren and deca? If not you might want to add anadrol and halo.

I'm in love with Halo. Always will be. Perhaps one poll should offer choice of injectables and another poll with choice of oral. Drol would win the oral battle but I still love Halo more.

Originally Posted by CT

Is this just between tren and deca? If not you might want to add anadrol and halo.

Yeah just between these two compounds. I like my dbol, so I wont be using any other oral. The only thing in question is my 19 nor.

Looks like Tren is the winner here.

Originally Posted by BigBird

I'm in love with Halo. Always will be. Perhaps one poll should offer choice of injectables and another poll with choice of oral. Drol would win the oral battle but I still love Halo more.

The problem with halo is the powder costs like 5 times that of anavar and most places don't carry it because of that reason.

It's really hard to find and if you do find it the chances are the quality isn't the best.

I just didn't respond to tren all that well the 2 times I used it. Ace was a nightmare. Parabolin was smooth but pretty much like a dry deca. That was years ago and I didn't use much. If I did it again I would do the tren hex at 300-400 mg/w with test. Other than that a good strength cycle for me was always test, deca and dianabol. Three old wing men that never let me down. Halo is great for dry strength. High dose Var is also great for dry strength.

Originally Posted by CT

The problem with halo is the powder costs like 5 times that of anavar and most places don't carry it because of that reason.

It's really hard to find and if you do find it the chances are the quality isn't the best.

True. I haven't used Halo since '04 and it was ther real deal - expensive but real. Also used it a couple different times in the mid 90s, real all times. Haveh't tried to get any nowadays but it's probably faked alot just like 'Var and Primo. Anyone knowingly selling bunk gear should be dragged into the street and shot.

If I'm used to running Tren ace at 500mg a week. What would be comparable dose of Deca a week? 600-700?

Underscore, why not get somewhere right in the middle, and go with something like NPP *fast acting deca* but without the sides of tren. I love tren myself, but Im very interested in running NPP soon

Originally Posted by BigBird

True. I haven't used Halo since '04 and it was ther real deal - expensive but real. Also used it a couple different times in the mid 90s, real all times. Haveh't tried to get any nowadays but it's probably faked alot just like 'Var and Primo. Anyone knowingly selling bunk gear should be dragged into the street and shot.

75% of the sources fit this description to some extent.

IMO

Originally Posted by ROID

75% of the sources fit this description to some extent.

IMO

Unfortunately, you're right for the most part. At least under-dosed gear. It seems that even gear that is gtg is under-dosed these days. It's just a matter of finding gear that is most near the dose that its label portrays it to be. Back in 1996 for example, we were getting jacked on one cc of 250mg Test Cyp EW!!! 500mg of Test EW would have never occurred to us because we were growing so much on 250mgs it was making our heads spin. And 10mgs of DBol was blowing us up too!! Imagine that! I wouldn't even notice 10mg of Dbol with today's garbage. Civilization as we know it is in decline when the quality of aas goes to shit. I'm convinced NOTHING is dosed according to its label. Unless you're on TRT/HRT from the pharmacy down the street.

Tren is definitly better for strenght than deca, I would put same amount of test what tren, even some more like 500wk tren and 750 test

Perhaps alternate the 2 then on different cycles. Deca also has great Collagen/joint/tendon repair/strengthening ability too.

That seems like a desire for all bodybuilders.