Thread: If there was one thing that you could have changed about your first ever cycle..

The product I used. which was Anadrol
I wish I would have started with just deca or primo or somthing like that.
I loved the gain and size I got from it but I feel as if it kinda screwed me up in the long run as far has health issues. i done Anadrol when I was like 13 or 14.
It was the only thing availabe to me

How did it mess your health up in the long run?

I played football and I also wrestled in high school. Failed a physicail and doctors pulled me from all sports. Enlarged heart at 17 years old. and Sleep apnea when I was 15. Not saying 100% that juice had anything to do with it at all. Everyone ALWAYS blams juice for everything and thats wrong.

After reading up on what anadrol was and how it down regulates receptors I always felt like I had to use more and more / higher doses and thats why I wish I would have used something mild my first year or so.

bodybuilding is a mindset. if you feel like something is not working, you dont give it your all in the gym or at the kitchen table.

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

what would it have been?
Also, how much did you gain & keep on your first cycle?

Oh wow this brings back memories of the summer of 95. Bill Mougios and Vipharm were the best source at the time and I had HG everything from Organon and Schering and all the best books from Dan Duchaine(RIP) who suggested 2g/week was a good cycle and Muscle Media 2000.

I gained 30 lbs in 30 days from 165 shredded like a marine to 195 with 3 purple claw marks on my shoulders and I'm still 195 today.

I remember my first present that said Happy Birthday from Vlassis with all these bubble wrapped and packaged taped boxes I had to use scissors to open.

test cyp/test e/sust 250/deca/nolvadex

I wouldnt have used sust 250 and I would have used deca separately with winny and anavar. I also would have used proviron and kicked off with dbol and anadrol.

I wis I waited til I was older I started at 21 or so and thats just way too young. I dont think my natural test ever fully recovered.

Originally Posted by Vick

Oh wow this brings back memories of the summer of 95. Bill Mougios and Vipharm were the best source at the time and I had HG everything from Organon and Schering and all the best books from Dan Duchaine(RIP) and Muscle Media 2000.

I gained 30 lbs in 30 days from 165 shredded like a marine to 195 with 3 purple claw marks on my shoulders and I'm still 195 today.

I remember my first present that said Happy Birthday from Vlassis with all these bubble wrapped and packaged taped boxes I had to use scissors to open.

test cyp/test e/sust 250/deca/nolvadex

I wouldnt have used sust 250 and I would have used deca separately with winny and anavar. I also would have used proviron and kicked off with dbol and anadrol.

HAHAHAHA With garbage cycles like that no wonder youve never grown! I bet this turd has never pinned a ml of gear in his life! Why would you use 3 kinds of test at the same time? Whats the purpose of deca nad winny with no test? Dan Duchaine would never ever suggest this garbage!

You have 9 glands and about 100 hormones throughout your endocrine system. Your endo doesn't really mature until about 21 to 25. If you're taking compounds that disrupt your endo system before it matures you could have problems for the rest of your life. Yes, body building is a mindset but you also have to understand how to do it safely.

Originally Posted by Vick

Oh wow this brings back memories of the summer of 95. Bill Mougios and Vipharm were the best source at the time and I had HG everything from Organon and Schering and all the best books from Dan Duchaine(RIP) who suggested 2g/week was a good cycle and Muscle Media 2000.

I gained 30 lbs in 30 days from 165 shredded like a marine to 195 with 3 purple claw marks on my shoulders and I'm still 195 today.

I remember my first present that said Happy Birthday from Vlassis with all these bubble wrapped and packaged taped boxes I had to use scissors to open.

test cyp/test e/sust 250/deca/nolvadex

I wouldnt have used sust 250 and I would have used deca separately with winny and anavar. I also would have used proviron and kicked off with dbol and anadrol.

You should just stop posting...

Troll!

I ran sust250 500mg/wk 8 wks. Looking back I wouldve ran 10 or 12 weeks instead. I gained 20lbs & ended up keeping 15lbs but pulled a hammy half way through so it couldve been more. Oh & I probably wouldve ran test cyp instead.

Originally Posted by GMO

You should just stop posting...

This made me lol!

Oh man...just thinking about my first cycle annoys me. I was young, dumb and didnt do any HW on AAS whatsoever. Test C 500mg weekly Deca 400mg weekly. Gained about 25 pounds in 10 weeks and NEVER took an AI nor PCT. Bloated like hell and lost pretty much all of it. You can pretty much tell what I would've done differently if i could turn back time. ::SIGH::

I would of stopped my 1st cycle at 3mths rather than 7.I knew better ,just didn't listen,I recovered fine just would of had a better way of gauging my cycle.Plus I tried everything,so that contributed to having bad feed back.I don,t know which compound worked better.

I really wish i researched more, my PCT consisted of HCG only no nolva or clomid

Originally Posted by Vick

Oh wow this brings back memories of the summer of 95. Bill Mougios and Vipharm were the best source at the time and I had HG everything from Organon and Schering and all the best books from Dan Duchaine(RIP) who suggested 2g/week was a good cycle and Muscle Media 2000.

I gained 30 lbs in 30 days from 165 shredded like a marine to 195 with 3 purple claw marks on my shoulders and I'm still 195 today.

I remember my first present that said Happy Birthday from Vlassis with all these bubble wrapped and packaged taped boxes I had to use scissors to open.

test cyp/test e/sust 250/deca/nolvadex

I wouldnt have used sust 250 and I would have used deca separately with winny and anavar. I also would have used proviron and kicked off with dbol and anadrol.

This is the guy that told me take SERM's during my cycle and save the A.I. for PCT. I wonder which of those books that came from.

Originally Posted by crudadillamonkey

This is the guy that told me take SERM's during my cycle and save the A.I. for PCT. I wonder which of those books that came from.

If used as an on-cycle anti-estrogen, 100-150 mg of clomid can be used when symptoms of gyno are seen and until a few days after symptoms subside. This should keep gyno under control. clomid pct, nolva and on cycle available you're welcome.

The hard numbers on Aromasin are
reasonably impressive, as it averages an 85% rate of suppression and this translates to an overall reduction in estradiol levels of about 50%, as well as raising testosterone to a
significant degree. It is also known as a steroidal aromatase
inhibitor. This is really interesting, because it has been known to actually
cause side effects (androgenic sides) that include increased aggressiveness and
a pretty decent hardening effect. I wouldn't usually suggest that women
should use Aromasin in large doses for any extended period of time, for this
reason (possible virilization, or development of male sexual characteristics
could occur with its use) http://hardbody1.com/aromasin.html

Wow more google searches good work Vick! What Ai do you run? What Pct? This ass clown just cuts and pastes crap on everythread.

If I could do it all over again I would have learned as much as I could before touching any gear. There is so much to understand and it's very easy to f-ck yourself up if you don't do it right.

This was just a few months ago for me. I would have used a SERM for PCT immediately and not a month after my 'natty' PCT. Found out my test dropped from 360 to 324. Thankfully that isn't too much, and I hope it's recovered fully now in my third week of using torem, but I wouldn't play around like that if I could go back. I'm sure I lost some gains, too.

Lack of research is what most people would like to change about their first cycle. So if you are thinking about a cycle, do as much research as possible and have answers for ALL the questions before putting hormones into your body.

I would have eased back on my calories around week 7 or 8 and done more cardio throughout my bulk.

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

what would it have been?
Also, how much did you gain & keep on your first cycle?

I would have run it even longer then I did.

I gained 27lbs on my first cycle and I kept around 18lbs of that once water and excess fat was burned.

I would have used less test or more AI (more AI would be pref)... Stretch marks are still hanging round 10 years later.

I would have done it when I was younger! LOL!

I also would have backed off the weight a little bit and increased the reps and sets instead, not pushed my bench press up so quickly (even though it felt great up until it hurt!).

I would not have done an oral winstrol-only cycle.

definetly research alot before even thinking of using AAS.

Originally Posted by BigBird

I would not have done an oral winstrol-only cycle.

Hard on the liver and expensive for no results/gains.

Originally Posted by astroretnal

Hard on the liver and expensive for no results/gains.

Hard on my liver? Yes, I'm sure it was.

Expensive? No, it was free from a friend.

Results/Gains? Significant strength gains, skin tightened and muscles felt even harder.

Problem? My d*ck wouldn't work and interior elbow pain did not go away completely.