Thread: ***first cycle help***

If this is your first cycle I would advise you to keep it simple. You don't know how your body will react to the Test. If you stack other compounds with the Test you could have severe side effects. Test E, 500mg/wk, 12 wks. Wait 19 days. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50, Nolvadex 40/20/20/20. HCG should be used during the cycle 250iu twice a week. Too much HCG is anabolic which is opposite of what you're trying to achieve. Keep it simple.

ok thanks a lot.. I have been reading conflicting things about hcg amounts. I will take your advice as being the correct amount. What are your thoughts on proviron? Do you think I should leave it out this time around?

Originally Posted by tupin

If this is your first cycle I would advise you to keep it simple. You don't know how your body will react to the Test. If you stack other compounds with the Test you could have severe side effects. Test E, 500mg/wk, 12 wks. Wait 19 days. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50, Nolvadex 40/20/20/20. HCG should be used during the cycle 250iu twice a week. Too much HCG is anabolic which is opposite of what you're trying to achieve. Keep it simple.

What do you mean by this?

x2 what the hell do you mean... And what other compund did you see him using? All i see is test e, aromasin, hcg... Thats a normal first cycle.. Your hcg is way to high, like he said 250iu's x2 a week should do.. There was another thread here a few days ago about to much hcg causing gyno problems.. I wouldnt use nolva and clomid for pct.. Keep nolva on hand incase sides come up.. Pct with the clomid, aromasin, and hcg....

Originally Posted by Getfit75

x2 what the hell do you mean... And what other compund did you see him using? All i see is test e, aromasin, hcg... Thats a normal first cycle.. Your hcg is way to high, like he said 250iu's x2 a week should do.. There was another thread here a few days ago about to much hcg causing gyno problems.. I wouldnt use nolva and clomid for pct.. Keep nolva on hand incase sides come up.. Pct with the clomid, aromasin, and hcg....

This is getting closer to the answer ^ . Ok to set things up optimally for a first cycle run it like this. Keep your test where it is . Start HCG on the 3rd week of cycle run it at 250iu 2Xs a week. Stop HCG before PCT starts. Use aromasin on cycle at 12.5 or 10mg eod not ed unless needed. Now for PCT, Start PCT 12-16 days after last inject . Use Clomid at 100/100/75/50mg wks 1-4 along with aromasin at 25/25/25/12.5mgs ed . This will prevent estro rebound and restart your HPTA. This is a pretty standard 1st cycle and it sounds like you are ready for it. I am pretty sure I didn''t leave anything out. So go ahead and go for it. Next cycle step it up by throwing in a oral at beginning or end or by using another compound.

Personally I like Cheque drops, Halotestin, and MENT for testosterone...................................... .. JK! Honestly if I was young and doing my first cycle I would see how effective Clomid, Aromasin, and Proscar were on my natural testosterone levels which are reportedly 3 times more effective than sytnthetics. In theory it may be more effective than a cycle.

thanks for all the help