Thread: 2nd Cycle, Review Plzkthx

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Originally Posted by WerdUp

This will be my second 10 week cycle.

1st cycle history: 10week @ 500mg test E per week, mon, thurs injections.
Ran HCG 2 week in at 500iu every 5 days. and nolva at 40/40/20/20 for pct.
My recover was not as fast as i would have liked and I believe it has to do with only using nolva for pct. I put on 15lbs and kept all 15.

Upcoming 2nd cycle (this one needs the critique)

Test E 500mg/wk 1-10 (may or may not frontload)
Tbol 40mg/day 1-4
Aromasin 12.5mg EoD 1-10
HCG 250iu/ 2xwk 2-10
Live52 1-5

pct includes:
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

Caloric intake: ~3700 calories. This will be a bulking cycle. I chose Tbol over dbol since i did not want to deal with the initial bloat and desire more high quality muscle gains (rather than a lot of h2o weight i will drop when i stop the dbol)

Thoughts? Thanks for the advice.

Looks pretty good. You added the Tbol (not much of a fan unless prepping for a show), but you might like it.

Why did you add the AI? did you have alot of estrogen related sides?

Overall looks good though. I would frontload the test, and since you added an AI I might bump the test up to 750wk.

I would run HCG week 2-11 because Enanthate needs a longer time frame to clear the system.

Thanks for the insight. I will continue the HCG one week longer. My first cycle I did not have an AI and i was ::Moonface:: but no gyno. I just wanted to keep the bloat away. Would the low dose aromasin be a bad idea otherwise? Also, wouldnt tbol be the best choice for lean mass and strength at the kickstart?

I would not use the nolva for pct there is no need for it if ur gonna run clomid, plus clomid is better anyways I would how ever run it like this 100/75/50/50 but thats just me and for the rest, ya agree with astroretnal I perfer dbol over tbol but u may like it better like he said so thats cool and for the hcg I would run it wk 3-12 other then wk 2-10 but its not a big difference and for the estrogen blocker aromasin I would only take .5 mgs ed if any it will hinder some of ur gains in high dosages of course unless u have alot of estrogen related sides where u need to run the blocker if not just keep it handy if u need it or run it at a much lower dose. also running ethanate I would run it for atleast 12 wks if I was gonna do a 10 wk cycle I would choose a different test other the c or e. Thats my two cents but overall I think it looks pretty good.

I would not use the nolva for pct there is no need for it if ur gonna run clomid, plus clomid is better anyways I would how ever run it like this 100/75/50/50 but thats just me and for the rest, ya agree with astroretnal I perfer dbol over tbol but u may like it better like he said so thats cool and for the hcg I would run it wk 3-12 other then wk 2-10 but its not a big difference and for the estrogen blocker aromasin I would only take .5 mgs ed if any it will hinder some of ur gains in high dosages of course unless u have alot of estrogen related sides where u need to run the blocker if not just keep it handy if u need it or run it at a much lower dose. also running ethanate I would run it for atleast 12 wks if I was gonna do a 10 wk cycle I would choose a different test other the c or e. Thats my two cents but overall I think it looks pretty good.

Originally Posted by Himik

I would run HCG week 2-11 because Enanthate needs a longer time frame to clear the system.

^^makes good point

Run both Nolvadex and Clomid for PCT. They do different things. When I ran adex .25mg/ed during my cycle I looked a lot tighter. At .5mg/ed my lips were so dry they were flaking off.