3rd Cycle: EQ, Test E, Primo, Dbol

**cybercom8** · 04-18-2011, 03:20 PM

hi there

Im looking at going on my 3rd cycle in a few weeks time. So i am doing some research and getting some ideas on the cycle. My last cycle was Deca, Test E, Sustanon, Dbol... Due to poor PCT and recovery I lost all of my gains. Im hoping with the new cycle and a better PCT that I retain most of my gains. I also like the fact that EQ increases appetite allot. I do eat allot normally.

Potential Cycle (8 weeks)
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I plan on doing 2 x 8 week cycles as opposed to 1 x 12/16 week cycle. There will be an off period in between the cycles equivalent to the length (8 weeks off).

Equipoise @ 400MG Per week
Test E or Test C @ 750MG Per week
Primobolan Depot @ 300MG per week (nice to enhance the cycle)
Dbol @ 30mg daily for 2 weeks OR 20mg daily for 3 weeks (some might say to do it throughout but i think with the other components of this cycle, i wouldnt want to over stress my system).

Potential PCT
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HCG throughout cycle and 3 weeks after last shot @ 500mg E3D ...would like some advice here?
Nolvadex (60mg on day 1, then 40mg for 10 days, then 20mg for 5 days, 10mgs for 5 days)
Clomid (300mgs on day 1, then 50mg for 10 days, then 20mg for 5 days, 10mg for 5 days)
HGH throughout cycle and throughout PCT at 4ius EOD

anyway thats what i have so far. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.

My stats:
Training naturally for 15 years
Height 1.75m, Current Weight 85kg
2 previous cycles (Dbol, Test E, Winny, Clen and similar PCT to above - kept 5kg of my gains..was up to 90kg) & (Deca, Dbol, Test E, Sustanon, with only HCG 3 week blitz and Clomid therapy...lost most of the gains with this one, including gains from previous cycle)...I hope to get my gains back and retain them.

thanks guys!

**Himik** · 04-18-2011, 05:05 PM

Equipoise @ 400MG Per week

You will not see much results from running it at this dose, you also want to run EQ at least for 12 weeks, extremely long half life.

Primobolan Depot @ 300MG per week

Would drop this and buy either more EQ or get some deca. You won't see much benefit from 300mg, primo is best when you are cutting not bulking. Reason behind that is its ability to retain muscle mass on a calorie deficient diet.

HCG throughout cycle and 3 weeks after last shot @ 500mg E3D ...would like some advice here?

Start HCG on the 10th day, do 500ui e5d, stop 10 days after the last shot of test

HGH throughout cycle and throughout PCT at 4ius EOD

I would suggest doing 3ius 5 days on 2 off, know a lot of people that get great results from this regiment.

As for nolva i would do standard 40/40/20/20 thing.
Not very experienced with clomid so no advice there.

**cybercom8** · 04-19-2011, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Himik

Equipoise @ 400MG Per week

You will not see much results from running it at this dose, you also want to run EQ at least for 12 weeks, extremely long half life.

Primobolan Depot @ 300MG per week

Would drop this and buy either more EQ or get some deca. You won't see much benefit from 300mg, primo is best when you are cutting not bulking. Reason behind that is its ability to retain muscle mass on a calorie deficient diet.

HCG throughout cycle and 3 weeks after last shot @ 500mg E3D ...would like some advice here?

Start HCG on the 10th day, do 500ui e5d, stop 10 days after the last shot of test

HGH throughout cycle and throughout PCT at 4ius EOD

I would suggest doing 3ius 5 days on 2 off, know a lot of people that get great results from this regiment.

As for nolva i would do standard 40/40/20/20 thing.
Not very experienced with clomid so no advice there.

HI Himik,

thanks for the advice. I must say im trying to avoid Deca and Tren like the plague. I put on a massive amount of weight with my last cycle but after the PCT i lost all my gains from the cycle as well as from the previous cycle...since my system was shut down so much.

I know they say one should cycle EQ for at least 10 to 12 weeks but i have heard of some people getting decent (not the best) results at 8 weeks. I believe EQ kicks in around the 6th week. Say i was to push my cycle to 10 weeks instead of 8...what what dosage would you suggest i use EQ for? Also i really want to keep the primo in the cycle - have only heard good things.

as for the PCT. I like your advice here and will definitely use it. Thanks!

**Himik** · 04-19-2011, 07:57 AM

I would suggest pinning at least 600mg, 800 is optimal of EQ imo. As fro primo, i have personally never used it before myself, however i've heard from many people that you need more than 300mg (around 500) to see the results. Hope this helps.

**wilgates** · 08-21-2011, 08:19 AM

Drop the primo and run the EQ @ 600mg 13 weeks and test E @750 14 trust me you will be much more pleased with the result eq slow and steady gains and very easy to maintain with proper pct plus you got your Hcg covered you should be fine with stop the cycle as soon as it kicks in that's silly run the cycle correct and be happy with your gains don't try all kinds of scientific new ideals just keep is simple eat right most important more than gear and rest you'll be fine

**Mike225** · 08-21-2011, 10:01 AM

Good info i just finished my cycle

Test e - 700 mg per week for 13 weeks
Eq - 600 mg per week for 12 weeks
Dbol - 50 mg per day for 6 weeks
Arimidex through out whole cycle

Clomid and Proviron for PCT and kept just about everything i ended up gaining 20 pounds

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