Thread: pubertal gyno suddenly getting worse losing strength too!?

Must be some sort of estrogen rebound. If it is, get some letro and google dosing schedules.

Wait for some other guys to chime in though to be on the safe side, you don't want to be using letro unless you have to.

Oh and no more PH or steroids until you know what you're doing, these aren't supplements, they are DRUGS! There's so much more to it than popping a couple of pills everyday.

Well your first mistake was not getting a legitimate pct lined up. Your body's natural t probably didn't return to pre cycle level and this combined with some estrogen rebound has resulted in decreasing strength and gyno. Get some clomid and aromasin and run a proper pct. Use pct sticky. Also if you are old enough and have trained for a few years why not do a test only cycle instead of PH. You would make good gains that you could keep. Also less harsh on the body. This is of course if you are over 21 and done growing.

thanks for the replys ... Im 22 lifted mostly through out high school then started again when i was 19 so ive been going some what consistently for the past 3 years had to sit out here and there due to injuries. I did a good amount of research about h drol cycles before i did mine. I got all my info and my dosing regimen through the anabolic minds forum. I was informed that since hdrol was very mild i wouldnt need a serm so i went w/ hypertest, inhibit e, pct assist, and lean extreme for my pct. My original dosing for hdrol was 50/50/75/75 but didnt really notice gains till the beginning of the 4th week so i added another 2 weeks at 100/100 and was pleased. No side effects what so ever. Only after pct i started to lose a little strength and size but that was to be expected. So im gunna have to hold off on my next cycle unfortunately so i should go about w/ another pct w/ a serm this time around. what about a natty test booster? sustain alpha any good?

The reason i decided not to go w/ real gear is because it seems a little to overwhelming for me. And i feel like i should save that for when im a little older. I know orals are more toxic but I wouldnt go about using them with out taking proper precautions. Im always running through this site reading here and there but it still seems a little much. Pinning, dosing, what type gear to use, where to get it from.

so its recommended that i start a full pct for 4 weeks? I know i wont be able to do my methadrol extreme cycle anytime soon but any 1 have any idea how long i should wait..

OK ray, HDROL is real gear, It will shut you down just like "real gear" and it did.... and you used OTC PCT and now you are paying for it.......lesson learned.

read this
First Cycle and PCT

First get blood work.

personally I would get some aromasin and start dosing at 25mg ED and see how the gyno reacts, and I would follow the pct recomendations in the above link, without the HCG.......

I wish you the best, Gyno/gyno flareups suck.

thanks for the help.. yea unfortunately i was mis informed on the other forum and had to learn the hard way im gunna start on this pct and hopefully sooner then later ill get back to making some gains.

Originally Posted by Rayj211

thanks for the help.. yea unfortunately i was mis informed on the other forum and had to learn the hard way im gunna start on this pct and hopefully sooner then later ill get back to making some gains.

You should notice a difference within days. SERM + TCF-1 will do wonders for you man.

would sustain alpha be good to add to this pct or will it be too much since im just trying to get my estrogen levels down and test back up to normal....