Thread: what yall think of my cycle

I suggest running HCG while on cycle as well.

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

hey guys i am new here and have not ran a cycle besides orals and prohormones in a long long time.but i have a order in of test e + eq.i am running beastdrol (aka superdrol) as a kick start.then was needing some help with doses.was thinking somthing like test 500mg a week,eq 400mg a week for 12 weeks.i have ai and clomid and lots of otc stuff for pct.well flame away at me .

I have never run EQ but I know most say to run it @ 600mg for 12-16 weeks as it takes a long time to take effect. In reality all you need is the test @ 500mgs a week for your first real cycle. You will do well with just test. Save the eq for your second cycle so you can get more and run it properly.

Originally Posted by Hell

I have never run EQ but I know most say to run it @ 600mg for 12-16 weeks as it takes a long time to take effect. In reality all you need is the test @ 500mgs a week for your first real cycle. You will do well with just test. Save the eq for your second cycle so you can get more and run it properly.

^^ This ^^

Originally Posted by Hell

I have never run EQ but I know most say to run it @ 600mg for 12-16 weeks as it takes a long time to take effect. In reality all you need is the test @ 500mgs a week for your first real cycle. You will do well with just test. Save the eq for your second cycle so you can get more and run it properly.

^^ this and make sure your diet is on point and you will live the gains Eq is a pain in the ass for a new guy.

I def enjoyed effects of EQ but then again I ran it at 600mg EW for 22 weeks. Anything under 14-16 weeks would be a waste IMO.

well this not my first cycle i have run about 3 cycles of test +deca back in the day qv brand stuff was great.i got huge to big really and thats what i am affraid of.i was told that a low dose of eq helps cut you up and helps not swell up quite as much as deca i loved deca and i really really need deca for my joints .but test +deca i put on to much weight i am a big guy.so any way i am going to try eq i have been told to keep the eq lower than the test is that right?

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

^^ this and make sure your diet is on point and you will live the gains Eq is a pain in the ass for a new guy.

can you please explain this i was told and read that eq was very mild on side effects if any at all so why would that be a pain in the ass for a new guy? and i know every body says eq takes a long time to kick in but surely i will see somthing from it sooner than 12 weeks or more right thats a long time for somthing to not do nothing at all.

Kind of hard to give advice without your stats and goals. Not trying to flame...just saying

Originally Posted by BigBird

I def enjoyed effects of EQ but then again I ran it at 600mg EW for 22 weeks. Anything under 14-16 weeks would be a waste IMO.

what kind of effects did you get off eq and what was the rest of your cycle like.and if you where on multi of diffrent stuff how did you know what effects eq was giving you.sorry guys for all the question but i want to learn more.i am not new to the game by no means but still and all ways will have a lot to learn.

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

can you please explain this i was told and read that eq was very mild on side effects if any at all so why would that be a pain in the ass for a new guy? and i know every body says eq takes a long time to kick in but surely i will see somthing from it sooner than 12 weeks or more right thats a long time for somthing to not do nothing at all.

For one it takes a long time to kick in. I thought it was your first cycle. Also at a low dose for a short time the effects are minimal like big bird said for it to be really effective you have to run it for atleast 16 weeks which for a new guy is a very long cycle. I guess I should have asked for your history first. Also if you don't want to blow up why use anything? Aas is used to gain size and strength if you just want to cut up fix your diet and hit the cardio.

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

what kind of effects did you get off eq and what was the rest of your cycle like.and if you where on multi of diffrent stuff how did you know what effects eq was giving you.sorry guys for all the question but i want to learn more.i am not new to the game by no means but still and all ways will have a lot to learn.

I ran EQ with Test and kickstarted with Dbol. It was my first time using EQ so I was familiar with what to expect from the Test and DBol. The first noticeable effect was severe annoying hunger pains after around weeks 3 or 4. I couldn't eat enough to get full and/or stay full for very long. In fact, my sleep was interrupted by hunger nearly every night. Then, after about week 8 or so, my veins in my biceps and shoulders, etc got thicker and more noticeable from a distance (increased vascularity)and started to pulsate even on non-workout days. The increase in vascularity was the main feature. I'm sure my RBC (red blood cell count) was through the roof and unless I was hallucinating, my skin had somewhat of a reddish/brownish hue to it. I didn't really mind though b/c Im fair-skinned by nature and it was almost as if I had been tanning on a regular basis. My strength obviously increased - attributed to all compounds - but EQ probably helped me keep some of the strength gains.

Originally Posted by BigBird

I ran EQ with Test and kickstarted with Dbol. It was my first time using EQ so I was familiar with what to expect from the Test and DBol. The first noticeable effect was severe annoying hunger pains after around weeks 3 or 4. I couldn't eat enough to get full and/or stay full for very long. In fact, my sleep was interrupted by hunger nearly every night. Then, after about week 8 or so, my veins in my biceps and shoulders, etc got thicker and more noticeable from a distance (increased vascularity)and started to pulsate even on non-workout days. The increase in vascularity was the main feature. I'm sure my RBC (red blood cell count) was through the roof and unless I was hallucinating, my skin had somewhat of a reddish/brownish hue to it. I didn't really mind though b/c Im fair-skinned by nature and it was almost as if I had been tanning on a regular basis. My strength obviously increased - attributed to all compounds - but EQ probably helped me keep some of the strength gains.

I dont mean to copy your post but thats how ı exactly felt wıth EQ the hunger never be able to get full and the wakeıng up at nıght to eat but the only dıfference through out the nıght ı was bashıng junk food and not proteın

Originally Posted by sergio90

I dont mean to copy your post but thats how ı exactly felt wıth EQ the hunger never be able to get full and the wakeıng up at nıght to eat but the only dıfference through out the nıght ı was bashıng junk food and not proteın

No worries on the "copying". After all, these are common sides/features of EQ so it's to be expected. I wanted the junk food badly but I usually downed a protein shake with 2 TBSP of oilive oil just before bedtime to stave off the hunger for a good night's sleep. Didn't always work though.

so if eq makes you eat like crazy why do so many people use it for cutting.i sure hope i did not mess up by going with eq i am a big guy that can eat with out any help haha.and for the guy that said why dont i just diet and cardio really why did i not think of that i mean after 20 years.no not being a smart ass put i hate i mean i hate when people say that for some people you can diet and cardio all day and still need help.for people like me that there body do not loose fat.so what i planed is to use the gear to help keep and add muscle and keep strenght up while i diet and cardio hard to where if for me with out gear i would have to do so much dieting and cardio i would be loosing muscle.does that make since.so my goal is to use the gear to help me add muscle while i diet and cardio to loose fat and hopefully keep bloat off me as best as possable i am hoping i choose a good thing in eq i know there is better stuff tren,winstrol etc but those are ruff side wise for me this being my first cyle in many many years.

Originally Posted by Dolfan84

Kind of hard to give advice without your stats and goals. Not trying to flame...just saying

my stats are i am 33 years old 15 years traning off and on.i am 5ft10inch 230-235ilbs arround 18% bf.i am a big guy with big muscle but i dont look good because i carry fat and do not loose fat easily at all even with a perfect diet and cardio.and yes i know i need to do a more quote un quote cutting stack but a lot of those compunds are ruff with lots of sides and i have not ran real gear in close to 5 or maybe 8 years ago.lots of guys friends at my gym said for me to do a test +eq that eq helps cutt you up and makes you look vascular.i have done about 3 cycle in the past of test+deca i loved deca and it loved me but i blew up i was way way to big bloated water weight huge.so i am trying test+eq and and going to diet and do cardio and hope to control bloat.but now yall all got me scared i am going to eat the house douwn with eq and be 300 ilbs.

You don't sound very educated about what you are putting in your body. You should stop listening to your friends and do some proper research. The way your going you will just waste money and gear. This shit isn't for lazy people that don't want to put in work and just take a magic pill.

I don't think your going to notice much of a "cut" at 18% bf. Not trying to be Debbie downer, but the bf % needs to be closer to 10% imo.

Agree Minimum 12% & that's pushing it.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

You don't sound very educated about what you are putting in your body. You should stop listening to your friends and do some proper research. The way your going you will just waste money and gear. This shit isn't for lazy people that don't want to put in work and just take a magic pill.

why be a little bitch behind a key board.i am not lazy and i have forgot more than you know.that was not cool to say at all dude you dont know me and if you did you would not say that at all.you dont know one person that works as hard as me.i did not get 19 inch arms and can rep 315 ilbs on bench 25 reps with out working hard and squat close to 600ilbs for reps. i all so dead lift close to 700ilbs.thats when i am only on whey protien.i would like to know what makes a keyboard bully say some stupid shit like you just said to a 15 year vet.that played college football and has been a strenght coach.and you may know more about gear than me but thats because i am bussy busting ass in the gym while your trying to find a easy way.your right i dont need gear to get huge i am natrually huge i am needing gear to help me fine tune my all ready huge body bro.I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHY OR WHAT I SAID TO MAKE YOU ATTACK ME AND CALL ME LAZY.

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

why be a little bitch behind a key board.i am not lazy and i have forgot more than you know.that was not cool to say at all dude you dont know me and if you did you would not say that at all.you dont know one person that works as hard as me.i did not get 19 inch arms and can rep 315 ilbs on bench 25 reps with out working hard and squat close to 600ilbs for reps. i all so dead lift close to 700ilbs.thats when i am only on whey protien.i would like to know what makes a keyboard bully say some stupid shit like you just said to a 15 year vet.that played college football and has been a strenght coach.and you may know more about gear than me but thats because i am bussy busting ass in the gym while your trying to find a easy way.your right i dont need gear to get huge i am natrually huge i am needing gear to help me fine tune my all ready huge body bro.I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHY OR WHAT I SAID TO MAKE YOU ATTACK ME AND CALL ME LAZY.

Well ...doesn't sound like you need gear. Just stay natty. Gear is in no way an easy way out, majority of RESPONSIBLE users bust their ass on cycle. There are a lot of lazy people out there that just jump on a cycle without any knowledge or experience, so people jump and attack them. Just brush it off, arguments in a forum are pointless lol

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Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

why be a little bitch behind a key board.i am not lazy and i have forgot more than you know.that was not cool to say at all dude you dont know me and if you did you would not say that at all.you dont know one person that works as hard as me.i did not get 19 inch arms and can rep 315 ilbs on bench 25 reps with out working hard and squat close to 600ilbs for reps. i all so dead lift close to 700ilbs.thats when i am only on whey protien.i would like to know what makes a keyboard bully say some stupid shit like you just said to a 15 year vet.that played college football and has been a strenght coach.and you may know more about gear than me but thats because i am bussy busting ass in the gym while your trying to find a easy way.your right i dont need gear to get huge i am natrually huge i am needing gear to help me fine tune my all ready huge body bro.I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHY OR WHAT I SAID TO MAKE YOU ATTACK ME AND CALL ME LAZY.

I ain't a little bitch bro my fucken pictures ate all over this thing you ask for advice then dont listen. You said you cant lose weight from diet and Cardio well you must be some kind of freak because that's how a body works if you did some studying with your huge body you would know that. If your a coach what the fuck do you teach your guys! How to get fat and do deadlifts. If your not willing to research the chemicals you are injecting then don't use them. It's dumbasses like you that come on here after doing a cycle of something that's totally not right for them and cry cause they got mo gains or gyno or there dick doesn't work. So before you fuck up YOUR HUGE BODY do some fucken reading BRO!!

Also If you are 5'10 230 at a HUGE 18% in good shape you would be aroud A MASSIVE 205!!!! So chill out E Arnold!!

Lmao

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Also If you are 5'10 230 at a HUGE 18% in good shape you would be aroud A MASSIVE 205!!!! So chill out E Arnold!!

at E Arnold part

Yea i seen your pics and i am not imprsed at all i dont know my bf it was a guese but yes i am alot bigger than you and no i am not fat and i have never come here crying about a cyle i have done.i have done 3 or 4 cycles and like i said i got to big for my taste i put on close to 60 ilbs and could not wear normal close had to be specilay bought or i had to cutt the sleves out my arms where 22 inches and my neck would not fit in the opening of t shirts.and i said that for some people everybody is diffrent i gain muscle very easily but do not loose fat easily i have a little fat i would like to loose.but i do not want to loose muscle while i am dieting and cardio thats where the gear can help.i just really do not understand why you wanted to attack me because you miss understood somthing you where wroung and i guese you are not man enough to say so .i really have no hard feelings toward you even thou you just attacked me for no reasone what so ever.and i have done my research.hey no big deal maybe you are haveing a bad day and you where just in the wroung no guestion about oh well shit happens it cool later bro.

Originally Posted by btex34n88

Well ...doesn't sound like you need gear. Just stay natty. Gear is in no way an easy way out, majority of RESPONSIBLE users bust their ass on cycle. There are a lot of lazy people out there that just jump on a cycle without any knowledge or experience, so people jump and attack them. Just brush it off, arguments in a forum are pointless lol

yea i should have just brushed it off but i am not lazy and i no my shit.i have been busting ass for 15 years.and need that extra push i am at my gentic limits.and yes i will be busting my ass while on this cycle just like all my other cyles.but i think if you guys was called out for no reasone because i am in the same leauge as you guys you would not just brush it off.i am not us to people talking to me like that i am the one in the gym everybody is following what i do what am i taking how do i get like you and all you know and to have this guy or kid attack me when i have been in the game hardcore for 15 years.just rubbed me the wroung way.IT IS ALL COOL HE WAS WROUNG I HAVE BEEN WROUNG THOUSANDS OF TIME NO BIG DEAL BUT I AM A BIG ENOUGH MAN TO SAY I WAS WROUNGH THATS THE DIFF.

so what do you guys think my bf might be i am like i said 5ft 9 or 5ft10 arround 230-235ilbs 19inch arms big chest ,shoulders,back and legs.can see a six pack but there is a thin layer of fat but you can see them when i flex.i have been dieting and doing lots cardio and am douwn to my 36 inch jeans are fitting loose.i have been loosing fat and gaining muscle which is hard work for a vet.but i am hitting a platua where if i keep working this hard i am going to start loosing some muscle to loose this last bit of fat and thats what i want the gear to help with.