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    Dosing Ideas

    I would like some opinions on how to cycle these compounds
    Abombs, Test E, NPP, Winnie, the abombs would be for the first weeks Winny for the finals. Please list duration and dosage for each compound, PCT and ANCILLS are covered never cycled NPP Abombs or winny so IM pretty excited. I have ran EQ test Tren deca (low dose for joints)and dbol and had great results this time around Im going more simple keeping just 1 of each class of ASS (19 nor, DHT, Test) during the cycle. Quantity is not an issue.

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    I would run Test at 750mg/week for 12 weeks, NPP 150mg eod for 12 weeks and winny 50mg ed for the last 4 weeks.
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    Mmmm, let's think.

    Abombs as u said u can hit the first 3 -4 weeks at 50mg ed
    Test E @ 500mg-750mg a week
    Npp @ 300 - 400mg a week shot eod
    winny @ 50mg ed for the last 4 weeks of cycle up untill pct

    That's just a general idea but it all depends on ur goals. Also what cycle length u looking. What are the doses for the gear

    I personally would drop the test e for prop.

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    I was thinking something like this

    Test E 250 EOD 1-12 weeks
    NPP 150 EOD 1-12`
    A-Bombs 50 50mg week 1 100 week 2-3
    Winny tabs 9-14 50mg ED

    Is that too much NPP and could I up the winny to 75 or a 100mg for last two weeks maybe?

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    I don't respond to easy so I think a high dose of test E is more convenient than a high dose of test prop and generally I like long cycles at least 12+ weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrene View Post
    I was thinking something like this

    Test E 250 EOD 1-12 weeks
    NPP 150 EOD 1-12`
    A-Bombs 50 50mg week 1 100 week 2-3
    Winny tabs 9-14 50mg ED

    Is that too much NPP and could I up the winny to 75 or a 100mg for last two weeks maybe?
    I ask about upping the Winny not trying to sound like a pussy but I know it's pretty toxic as is Anadrol, so has anyone had experience running winny tabs at 100mg ed for 3 weeks lets say and abombs at a 100 ed for 3 weeks ok or due the sides outweigh the benefits, that's why I ask better safe than sorry.

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    NPP is a good mild highly anabolic drug, one of my favorites. Given a choice I would run test and NPP most of the time. Dose really is something you should feel out for yourself. You should never go higher than you can tolerate. It's sort of a moving target but overdoing it only ends you up with really uncomfortable sides for 1/2 or more of your cycle depending if you can get it under control. You have to ask yourself given the drugs you have done what is your sweet spot for test etc. NPP is mild on the sides part but a pretty good anabolic so y can get a good amount of solid gains from it with test in there.

    Personally I would just pick one of the orals and save the other one. I would probably choose the winstrol. Winstro is a funny drug. It use to come in 2 and 5 mg tabs and people would do anywhere from 10 -50 mg/d. A good anabolic dose that is fairly well toerated without serious joint issues is probably 20-30 mg. If the winstrol is good you should even see an effect at 10 mg. Personally I think a lot of the tabs out there are wither poorly absorbed due to the binders use or are under dosed. Hard to tell. All that said I would probably do the test and NPP at 100-150 mg each 3 times a week and after 8 weeks I would add in 30 mg of winstrol. What I would see is about a 15 lbgain in lean mass and then the winstrol would harden the physique, a nice cycle starting with a decent BF and clean diet throughout the cycle. You'll end up putting on good solid mass and gaining a quality look the last 4 weeks. Anadrol used in the front of the cycle will just blow you up and make the last 8 weeks of your cycle seem like it fizzled. anadrol is better used to push a bulk later in a cycle when looking to gain strength and some temporary size. The winstrol on the other hand will add strength while hardening the physique and draw out some subQ water.

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    if you prefer longer cycles, why not just run deca instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycomann View Post
    NPP is a good mild highly anabolic drug, one of my favorites. Given a choice I would run test and NPP most of the time. Dose really is something you should feel out for yourself. You should never go higher than you can tolerate. It's sort of a moving target but overdoing it only ends you up with really uncomfortable sides for 1/2 or more of your cycle depending if you can get it under control. You have to ask yourself given the drugs you have done what is your sweet spot for test etc. NPP is mild on the sides part but a pretty good anabolic so y can get a good amount of solid gains from it with test in there.

    Personally I would just pick one of the orals and save the other one. I would probably choose the winstrol. Winstro is a funny drug. It use to come in 2 and 5 mg tabs and people would do anywhere from 10 -50 mg/d. A good anabolic dose that is fairly well toerated without serious joint issues is probably 20-30 mg. If the winstrol is good you should even see an effect at 10 mg. Personally I think a lot of the tabs out there are wither poorly absorbed due to the binders use or are under dosed. Hard to tell. All that said I would probably do the test and NPP at 100-150 mg each 3 times a week and after 8 weeks I would add in 30 mg of winstrol. What I would see is about a 15 lbgain in lean mass and then the winstrol would harden the physique, a nice cycle starting with a decent BF and clean diet throughout the cycle. You'll end up putting on good solid mass and gaining a quality look the last 4 weeks. Anadrol used in the front of the cycle will just blow you up and make the last 8 weeks of your cycle seem like it fizzled. anadrol is better used to push a bulk later in a cycle when looking to gain strength and some temporary size. The winstrol on the other hand will add strength while hardening the physique and draw out some subQ water.
    Good to know thanks will keep in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1569 View Post
    if you prefer longer cycles, why not just run deca instead?
    Wanted to try this instead since it kicks in immediately and have enough to run for a while.

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    [QUOTE=Glycomann;2274483]NPP is a good mild highly anabolic drug, one of my favorites. Given a choice I would run test and NPP most of the time. Dose really is something you should feel out for yourself. You should never go higher than you can tolerate. It's sort of a moving target but overdoing it only ends you up with really uncomfortable sides for 1/2 or more of your cycle depending if you can get it under control. You have to ask yourself given the drugs you have done what is your sweet spot for test etc. NPP is mild on the sides part but a pretty good anabolic so y can get a good amount of solid gains from it with test in there.

    Personally I would just pick one of the orals and save the other one. I would probably choose the winstrol. Winstro is a funny drug. It use to come in 2 and 5 mg tabs and people would do anywhere from 10 -50 mg/d. A good anabolic dose that is fairly well toerated without serious joint issues is probably 20-30 mg. If the winstrol is good you should even see an effect at 10 mg. Personally I think a lot of the tabs out there are wither poorly absorbed due to the binders use or are under dosed. Hard to tell. All that said I would probably do the test and NPP at 100-150 mg each 3 times a week and after 8 weeks I would add in 30 mg of winstrol. What I would see is about a 15 lbgain in lean mass and then the winstrol would harden the physique, a nice cycle starting with a decent BF and clean diet throughout the cycle. You'll end up putting on good solid mass and gaining a quality look the last 4 weeks. Anadrol used in the front of the cycle will just blow you up and make the last 8 weeks of your cycle seem like it fizzled. anadrol is better used to push a bulk later in a cycle when looking to gain strength and some temporary size. The winstrol on the other hand will add strength while hardening the physique and draw out some subQ water.[/QUOTE

    Didn't realize it drys yout out that bad so 50mg I may feel some joint pain? Would I have joint pain if I run the NPP with the Winny?

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    If you go with npp keep us updated
    On how you like it compared to deca

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    If you already have joint issues I'd avoid the winny, or at least keep your dose pretty low. I think you'd be fine with just the test+npp, maybe the anadrol for the first few weeks or when your gains start to slow
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrene View Post
    I was thinking something like this

    Test E 250 EOD 1-12 weeks
    NPP 150 EOD 1-12`
    A-Bombs 50 50mg week 1 100 week 2-3
    Winny tabs 9-14 50mg ED

    Is that too much NPP and could I up the winny to 75 or a 100mg for last two weeks maybe?
    That's looks good to me, but i would also drop the a-bombs but that's just me. As for the winny u'll have to test and see. I don't get joint pain on it but i do cramp up easy. Also 150mg npp eod will work wonders.

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    Thanks for all the ideas and comments I can always count on this board for some solid advice,thanks again fellas. I will let you guys know the outcome of the NPP and no I don't have serious joint problems except in elbows sometimes if Im training to much you know what I mean. Still not sure about the abombs might just do a 2 week kicker at 50 ed not sure might just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrene View Post
    I would like some opinions on how to cycle these compounds
    Abombs, Test E, NPP, Winnie, the abombs would be for the first weeks Winny for the finals. Please list duration and dosage for each compound, PCT and ANCILLS are covered never cycled NPP Abombs or winny so IM pretty excited. I have ran EQ test Tren deca (low dose for joints)and dbol and had great results this time around Im going more simple keeping just 1 of each class of ASS (19 nor, DHT, Test) during the cycle. Quantity is not an issue.

    Stats?

    Age/height/weight/BF%/Training history/cycle history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Stats?

    Age/height/weight/BF%/Training history/cycle history...
    Age 30
    Height 6' 0'
    Weight currently 213
    Starting training at 12 drinking protein shakes and going to gym every summer by 13. Gym on and of all my life, concrete work for 10 years on and off as well.
    Been juicing on and off 2 1/2 years now I was already at 200's when I started I actually hit 225 before touching ASS but was holding a little more fat but that was also in my mid twenties. So what steroids do for me is get me back those hormones to get me to where I was I my best, it's true what they say when you get around 30 unless you have a good genes (hormone profile) you will not be able to achieve what you could before as far as gains.I've tried Test E,prop,Tren A and E, Deca, EQ, Dbols, Proviron, and 100iu of growth and I know thats not enough to do anything (I'm referring to the 100iu) This next cycle I want to really break some PR's which I know I will.

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