Help..(My first cycle)

**Schwarz** · 04-27-2011, 08:43 AM

Hi..
My stats..i'm 28 years old ..10 years of lifting experience.
5.68 feet
197 lb
11%

I have doing "some..prohormones cycles"..5 cycles..Mdrol,Epistane,D-zine,M14add,X-tren/Havoc

than i have decided to step forward and using the real gear..

For my first cycle,i have decided to doing some recomp..
10 week.
1-10 Testo Prop 100 eod
1-10 Tren Ace 50 eod
1-10 Masteron 50 eod
1-10 Proviron 100mg ed

is it bit underdosed ..maybe,even for a first cycle? I would like to gain some hardness,some strenght..and going under 11% BF...with a keto/low carb diet.

Post cycle
Clomid 4 weeks @?

I also have CLEN,T3 and Ketotifen ..is it possible and effective run T3, 4 weeks, in the middle of my 10 weeks cycle? then in post cycle Clen+Ketotifen (3weeks on 3 off 3 on and 3 off)?
Thanks for any kind of help.

**JerBear1980** · 04-27-2011, 09:40 AM

A good rule of thumb is add one compound per cycle. I would drop the tren, mast and proviron, and just run test your first go. If you get side effects, you wont know which one is causing them.

If I were you, I would just run test-e 500mg for 10 weeks. But if all you have is prop 100mg EOD. But your gonna have a rough time putting that many needles into virgin muscles.

PCT clomid 100/50/50/25

**TGB1987** · 04-27-2011, 09:48 AM

WOW you need to slow it down. What makes you think you need all of those compounds? Why do people do this? First cycle should be Test only preferably a long ester like Test C or E. You don't want to have to inject all the time when you first start. You need to research more before you and jump into a cycle. You have to read the first cycle sticky. You need to run an AI on cycle. Your PCT needs an AI with Clomid. You don't need T3 and Clen especially if you are truly at 11% bodyfat whch I doubt if you are wanting to recomp and use T3 and Clen. How did you figure your bodyfat out? My advice to you is not to start this cycle until you understand how steroids work. Your cycle is way to much for a first cycle even if the doses are low.

**trapzilla** · 04-27-2011, 10:13 AM

there is a reason we say test only first time round it is not due to wanting to hamper gains nor is it out of fear. It is to allow progression down the line of steroids.
If you were to run the proposed cycle you would be running two DHT based compounds, so if you suffer drastic hairloss how will you treat it?
One of which is proviron, if you suffer prostate issues how will you know for certain what is causing the problems.
You have tren in there if you suffer kidney and bp issues how will you know for certain what is causing those issues?
If you get gyno how will you know the cause? prolactin, progesteone or estrogen.

There is no indication given to us that you have any ancillaries in place or would even know how to treat any issues.

here is a basic cycle that almost all will agree with is sufficient for a first cycle;
1-12 test e @500mg ew split mon/thurs
1-12 adex @.5mg eod
13-18 asin @12.5mg ed
15-18 clomid 100/75/50/50
nolva on hand in case gyno occurs
wait a month get bloods done-be happy
(possibly HCG but not an absolute importance)

Do not take my statements as insulting or directed specifically at you it is just an annoyance at the modern culture of chemical enhancement

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