Thread: kick question about winny

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That's 1000mg...

If you are intent on running it, I would do 40mg ED for 25 days.

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thanks. do you think thats a effective dose and duration to run it?

Originally Posted by weightslayer

thanks. do you think thats a effective dose and duration to run it?

For woman yes

sweet. so i should just sell it then.

Originally Posted by weightslayer

sweet. so i should just sell it then.

It not really enough to be beneficial bro sell it or save it and get more.

thanks.

Originally Posted by weightslayer

thanks. do you think thats a effective dose and duration to run it?

Yes, it is only 3 days shy of four weeks, and depending on your experience with AAS, 40mg will yield decent results.

Originally Posted by weightslayer

i'm about 3 weeks into a summer cutter.....test prop 450mgs/week plan on throwing in tren ace in a couple of weeks at 300mgs/week. i'm also using clen at 100mcgs a day for 3 weeks and then a few weeks off. losing weight at a steady pace( i'm already down 10lbs). thing is, i have 100 winny tabs but they're only 10mgs tabs. does anyone think they would be wasted at 30mgs ed for the last couple weeks of the cycle? i have used test and tren together a good number of times, and i dont think you can beat the combo for a good recomp cycle but i've never touched winny. and i meant quick question!

30 mg/d works great for me. Would not be a waste at all. Prop at 450 mg/w, tren at 250 mg/w and Win at 210 mg/w is plenty. you keep your diet clean you will get what you're looking for. Use a good AI to avoid gyno problems. Exemastane or letrozole are my preference at 12.5 mg/d and 1 mg ETD respectively.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

30 mg/d works great for me. Would not be a waste at all. Prop at 450 mg/w, tren at 250 mg/w and Win at 210 mg/w is plenty. you keep your diet clean you will get what you're looking for. Use a good AI to avoid gyno problems. Exemastane or letrozole are my preference at 12.5 mg/d and 1 mg ETD respectively.

^^^Exactly

Originally Posted by Glycomann

30 mg/d works great for me. Would not be a waste at all. Prop at 450 mg/w, tren at 250 mg/w and Win at 210 mg/w is plenty. you keep your diet clean you will get what you're looking for. Use a good AI to avoid gyno problems. Exemastane or letrozole are my preference at 12.5 mg/d and 1 mg ETD respectively.

I wouldnt question Glycoman but dont you think that with the test and tren already running that low dose winny like that would be ineffective. Unless hif bf is already very low? Ive always thought oral winny was better taken for 6 weeks?

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

I wouldnt question Glycoman but dont you think that with the test and tren already running that low dose winny like that would be ineffective. Unless hif bf is already very low? Ive always thought oral winny was better taken for 6 weeks?

No I don't think so at all. Stanozolol increases C1 inhibitor which effectively draws extracellular water out. That's the cosmetic edge of winstrol. It works in hereditary angioedema at 2 mg/d and even at 2 mg EOD for these people. Latsky have you used winstrol/stanozolol? You could be pleasently surprised at it's effectiveness at doses lower than 50 mg/d. In the 80s most guys ran it at 10-20 mg/d. Back then it was available at 2 and 5 mg tabs and it worked very well. IMO 50 mg/d oral is really hard on the body. Before a contest is a different story b/c the competitor is looking for extreme hardness leading up to a single day. In that case people did similar to today running 50 mg/d injectable along with halotestin at 20 mg/d or more. That's really a completely different goal and not meant for a prolonged period. More like 4 weeks when at 3-4% BF and running up to the pageantry. Used at a lower dose with a decent test base and a strong anabolic winstrol is a decent cosmetic to pull water without going to the extreme like when in contest prep. It also adds a decent amount of strength so it is nice to add to test/tren in the last 4-6 weeks. Keep the diet clean and train well and test/tren will have a nice leaning and mass building effect over the first 6-8 weeks. Then add winstrol at 30 mg a day with everything under control and there willbe a definite hardening and added strength in the gym.

If you add to much androgen/anabolic side effects become counterproductive obviously. Too much tren and you have insomnia, excessive sweating, poor cardio fitness and out of control emotions. just the right amount and you get all the bennies and very few sides. Same thing with winstrol. To much and you get anxiety, high BP, crappy lipids and extreme joint pain. Just enough and you get the dry look and added strength. What I notice over and over is a go with the trend attitude when it comes to doses and combos. Everyone has to experiment to find what doses and combos work for them. After all this time I think it's best to try out these compounds one at a time with a decent test base (one that is well tolerated) and ramp the drug up from a lowish dose to see where the tolerance point is. Once you have a grasp on total anabolic it's a go to do more complex combos. The doses I suggested ealier sort of flies in the face of this advice but is probably in a decent effective range for most. Now go to 1 g of test, 400 mg/w of tren Ace and 50 mg/d od winstrol and I can almost guarantee uncomfortable side effects for 90% of users.

Thanks for the good info glyco!!

Originally Posted by Glycomann

No I don't think so at all. Stanozolol increases C1 inhibitor which effectively draws extracellular water out. That's the cosmetic edge of winstrol. It works in hereditary angioedema at 2 mg/d and even at 2 mg EOD for these people. Latsky have you used winstrol/stanozolol? You could be pleasently surprised at it's effectiveness at doses lower than 50 mg/d. In the 80s most guys ran it at 10-20 mg/d. Back then it was available at 2 and 5 mg tabs and it worked very well. IMO 50 mg/d oral is really hard on the body. Before a contest is a different story b/c the competitor is looking for extreme hardness leading up to a single day. In that case people did similar to today running 50 mg/d injectable along with halotestin at 20 mg/d or more. That's really a completely different goal and not meant for a prolonged period. More like 4 weeks when at 3-4% BF and running up to the pageantry. Used at a lower dose with a decent test base and a strong anabolic winstrol is a decent cosmetic to pull water without going to the extreme like when in contest prep. It also adds a decent amount of strength so it is nice to add to test/tren in the last 4-6 weeks. Keep the diet clean and train well and test/tren will have a nice leaning and mass building effect over the first 6-8 weeks. Then add winstrol at 30 mg a day with everything under control and there willbe a definite hardening and added strength in the gym.

If you add to much androgen/anabolic side effects become counterproductive obviously. Too much tren and you have insomnia, excessive sweating, poor cardio fitness and out of control emotions. just the right amount and you get all the bennies and very few sides. Same thing with winstrol. To much and you get anxiety, high BP, crappy lipids and extreme joint pain. Just enough and you get the dry look and added strength. What I notice over and over is a go with the trend attitude when it comes to doses and combos. Everyone has to experiment to find what doses and combos work for them. After all this time I think it's best to try out these compounds one at a time with a decent test base (one that is well tolerated) and ramp the drug up from a lowish dose to see where the tolerance point is. Once you have a grasp on total anabolic it's a go to do more complex combos. The doses I suggested ealier sort of flies in the face of this advice but is probably in a decent effective range for most. Now go to 1 g of test, 400 mg/w of tren Ace and 50 mg/d od winstrol and I can almost guarantee uncomfortable side effects for 90% of users.

Good post, Glycomann.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

No I don't think so at all. Stanozolol increases C1 inhibitor which effectively draws extracellular water out. That's the cosmetic edge of winstrol. It works in hereditary angioedema at 2 mg/d and even at 2 mg EOD for these people. Latsky have you used winstrol/stanozolol? You could be pleasently surprised at it's effectiveness at doses lower than 50 mg/d. In the 80s most guys ran it at 10-20 mg/d. Back then it was available at 2 and 5 mg tabs and it worked very well. IMO 50 mg/d oral is really hard on the body. Before a contest is a different story b/c the competitor is looking for extreme hardness leading up to a single day. In that case people did similar to today running 50 mg/d injectable along with halotestin at 20 mg/d or more. That's really a completely different goal and not meant for a prolonged period. More like 4 weeks when at 3-4% BF and running up to the pageantry. Used at a lower dose with a decent test base and a strong anabolic winstrol is a decent cosmetic to pull water without going to the extreme like when in contest prep. It also adds a decent amount of strength so it is nice to add to test/tren in the last 4-6 weeks. Keep the diet clean and train well and test/tren will have a nice leaning and mass building effect over the first 6-8 weeks. Then add winstrol at 30 mg a day with everything under control and there willbe a definite hardening and added strength in the gym.

If you add to much androgen/anabolic side effects become counterproductive obviously. Too much tren and you have insomnia, excessive sweating, poor cardio fitness and out of control emotions. just the right amount and you get all the bennies and very few sides. Same thing with winstrol. To much and you get anxiety, high BP, crappy lipids and extreme joint pain. Just enough and you get the dry look and added strength. What I notice over and over is a go with the trend attitude when it comes to doses and combos. Everyone has to experiment to find what doses and combos work for them. After all this time I think it's best to try out these compounds one at a time with a decent test base (one that is well tolerated) and ramp the drug up from a lowish dose to see where the tolerance point is. Once you have a grasp on total anabolic it's a go to do more complex combos. The doses I suggested ealier sort of flies in the face of this advice but is probably in a decent effective range for most. Now go to 1 g of test, 400 mg/w of tren Ace and 50 mg/d od winstrol and I can almost guarantee uncomfortable side effects for 90% of users.

Awesome thanks glycoman, I have used tren winny and test. I ran 500 test c 250 tren and winny at 25mg a day and never realy noticed any benefit to the taking the winny as I did the same test tren cycle without winny the summer before and this is why my thinking was that a higher dosage of winny would be more beneficial. Thats me though and as you said experimenting is the key. So I appologize to weightslayer for saying it is not enough. I stand corrected. Great info as usual Glyco

good info guys! i think i'll throw it in at the end. oh, and i'm already taking letro at 1 mgs 2x week. it's my favorite AI.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Awesome thanks glycoman, I have used tren winny and test. I ran 500 test c 250 tren and winny at 25mg a day and never realy noticed any benefit to the taking the winny as I did the same test tren cycle without winny the summer before and this is why my thinking was that a higher dosage of winny would be more beneficial. Thats me though and as you said experimenting is the key. So I appologize to weightslayer for saying it is not enough. I stand corrected. Great info as usual Glyco

No apology necessary at all.