Thread: Winstrol (Stanozolol) A Basic Guide by Heavyiron

Originally Posted by heavyiron

EQ comes in various doses as low as 50mg/ml.

Heavy, wasn't this the original dosage form, when it was used for horses?

Originally Posted by Himik

Heavy, wasn't this the original dosage form, when it was used for horses?

Yes, it was 50mg/ml in a large 50ml vial. Originally came from a country in South America and label had a Horse, Bull and Dog on it.

Heavy, with a ratio, please describe which is harsher on the liver and by how much (Injectable Winny Vs Oral version)

Originally Posted by Das Sloot

Heavy, with a ratio, please describe which is harsher on the liver and by how much (Injectable Winny Vs Oral version)

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I would guess the oral is slightly harsher due to the first pass through the liver (which the injectable avoids); however, the depot is still harsh on liver nonetheless, just a wee bit less harsh than the oral. That's my educated guess. What do you think/know about this, Heavy?

Originally Posted by Himik

Heavy, wasn't this the original dosage form, when it was used for horses?

Originally EQ was a human preparation before Squibb brought it to the vetinary market. Ciba sold a brand called Parenabol that saw some clinical application but I don't know the mg/ml of the original human EQ.

With oral winny 10 mg, if you wanted to take 50 mg a day, would you take it all at once or spread out?

Originally Posted by returnofthdragon

With oral winny 10 mg, if you wanted to take 50 mg a day, would you take it all at once or spread out?

I would experiment if I were you.

Based on half lives, twice daily dosing makes sense but I never could tell the difference so I just dose mine all at once.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I would experiment if I were you.

Based on half lives, twice daily dosing makes sense but I never could tell the difference so I just dose mine all at once.

My caps were 40mg, so it was only practical to dose once.

The only difference I noticed was when dosing in the afternoon I couldnt get to sleep too well.

Nice write up Heavy. Winstrol was my favorite steroid when I was fighting.

What is the half life?

AS far as the joint pain that some users get, I found it useful to start low and titrate up the dose until the pain became evident and then back down a little. Also, some Brits a few years ago found that Raloxifene seems to help with the joint pain. Raloxifene is a SERM used for osteoporosis. Nolvadex seems to work too. I don't have numbers but it works for me. Since I am older I think I am more susceptible to the jjoint pain than others.

I will be using this product very soon, I can't wait to see the effects!

Originally Posted by heavyiron

To be honest I think stacking orals should only be done for very good reasons. In other words, if you are at the end of contest prep some guys will drop all injects 10-14 days out and only use orals to stay anabolic but dry. It's not uncommon for those last few weeks of prep that winny and anavar are stacked or winny and halo but usually duration is quite short. 3-6 weeks at the end.

I have no problem if a guy wants to do short runs of 50mg daily anavar stacked with 50mg daily winny or even short runs of 100mg winny daily. Your proposal of 50mg winny and 50mg T-bol daily would be the upper end of dosing that I would be comfortable advocating. Your 5 week stack is within an acceptable range of duration for my tastes however I would strongly recommend cycle support as orals at these doses profoundly lower HDL (good) cholesterol and raise LDL (bad) cholesterol. Your stack will no doubt place stress on your liver as well. Stay well hydrated and avoid other stressful things like alcohol and acetaminophen.

With proper nutrition and training your proposed stack will illicit a hard dry look. I would personally use a little bit of Test Prop if it were me. Even 300mg weekly of prop would make a big difference in the outcome of the cycle. I would also run an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex with the test to keep E2 controlled and keep the dry but full look to the muscle bellies.

What about duperdrol and winny
SD week 6 -10 20 mg

Winny week 6-12 50mg

I think im bout to pop the top on this milky, delicious BD winny. As soon as i get to 10% that is!

Originally Posted by returnofthdragon

What is the half life?

I believe half-life for the oral tabs is approx. 9 hrs or so. I have seen the half-life for the Depot listed at 24 hrs although since it is an aqueous solution, it is difficult to pin point a traditional accurate half-life to it. But 24hrs is the general consensus on the liquid depot.

Now in amps!

I will bet dimes to dollars that Asia Pharma doesn't mess up your joints like the UGL stuff.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

I will bet dimes to dollars that Asia Pharma doesn't mess up your joints like the UGL stuff.

One sure way to find out...

damn, that needle in the second picture looks huge lol.

nice pic.

Nice and smooth...

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Nice and smooth...

gotta love spot injections lol

I can also say that the Aquabolic Test Suspension is painless and just the usual soreness a day later with instant results. why the fuck anyone would want to pin prop ed instead of this is beyond me.