Thread: Human Grade NPP?

Not came across it.
Going to be trying naps pretty soon thow.

I think you will like it,GMP MADE!

Durobolic by Asia Pharma.

Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org

I think you will like it,GMP MADE!

Durobolic by Asia Pharma.

That stuff is not Human Grade, nor is Asia Pharma legit GMP. No official agency is going to do a valid GMP audit of a UGL.

Thanks.

P.S. I also find it crazy that you can find human grade Deca for half the price of that Asia Pharma Durabolic.

Dear M4A3,please first do some research and then talk!

best-regards


wp

Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org

Dear M4A3,please first do some research and then talk!

best-regards


wp

I'm not going to get into a pointless discussion about what is and what is not GMP with you, as has been done in other threads in the past. Nor am I going to go into the whole "FDA approved" fiasco that has also been covered in the past here on the boards.

My question was about human grade NPP. I rather stay on topic.

And I never said that Asia Pharma didn't make good UGL stuff. It seems to have a really good rep around here.

I have never seen NPP made by a respectable HG company. If anyone has, I would love to see pics / name of the company.
The only borderline HG company that is known to me to produce NPP is BM pharmaceuticals from India.

Found one that is definately the real deal, however it is only 25mg/ml. Here is the pic:

Originally Posted by Himik

Found one that is definately the real deal, however it is only 25mg/ml. Here is the pic:

At 25mg/ml, you would have to shoot so much your glutes would look huge. LOL.

Originally Posted by M4A3

At 25mg/ml, you would have to shoot so much your glutes would look huge. LOL.

Lol, it is not intended by the company to be shooting 6 of those at a time. In fact, a lot of HG products are very low in concentrations of hormones in comparison with UGLs, it has always been a good way for me to separate HG from UG.

Asia Pharma and the new British Dragon are going to be the best choices you are going to get. They will be as close as your going to get. I am not going any further than that . You have your mind made up about them obviously but have probably never used them. Real gear costs money. Most places are not selling real HG Test or anything else that is Human Grade for that matter. The prices are much too low to be real. Look at U.S. Prescription grade test for even the generic version and see how much real Human Grade costs. TRT test is expensive if you get a pharm brand (not compound pharmacy stuff because some times these are not made properly). Anyway what I am saying is if you are going international AP or BD is going to be your best bet. AP has videos of the manufactoring and testing of their products. I believe they are using GMP (in the video you can see the standards they adhere to) UGLs or HG can be GMP as long as they follow the proper procedures of manufactoring . Whether or not AP and BD are HG or UGL I don't think anyone knows for sure but they do have great products either way and follow sterile procedure. I would love to see someone who is quick to dismiss them give them a try and post a log of their results. I have used AP products and I can assure you that you would be happy with the results. I would never say that about any other brand other than the U.S. pharm grade products. Would love to see a log from you on their products. Just wanted to give you my honest opinion. Good Luck and I hope you find what you are looking for. NPP is an awesome addition to a test cycle.

Deleted. I don't want to make it seem like I'm making any accusations. That was not my intent.

I only try to give the best advice that I can to the members here in every situation. In this case you are not going to find a better product for what you are looking for. The pic posted above from Himik was a czech product that I believe is no longer around and has no real use to a bodybuilder because of the low dose. I support WP because I have used his products and they are you actually get what you pay for that is it. They are good and unlike most others out there when you pay for something you actually get the product you pay for not a substitute or a lesser dose or a fake. You know what you are getting but it does cost more. I just wanted to help like I do with anything else but apparently when I recommend a good sponser with real products suddenly no one wants to listen. Funny isn't? I get nothing if you decide to use WP other than the satisfaction of knowing that you will get what you pay for and will be happy from the results I guess that makes me a bad guy for trying to help you. Whatever you do what you want but I wanted to save you time. As I said good luck!

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Asia Pharma and the new British Dragon are going to be the best choices you are going to get. They will be as close as your going to get. I am not going any further than that . You have your mind made up about them obviously but have probably never used them. Real gear costs money. Most places are not selling real HG Test or anything else that is Human Grade for that matter. The prices are much too low to be real. Look at U.S. Prescription grade test for even the generic version and see how much real Human Grade costs. TRT test is expensive if you get a pharm brand (not compound pharmacy stuff because some times these are not made properly). Anyway what I am saying is if you are going international AP or BD is going to be your best bet. AP has videos of the manufactoring and testing of their products. I believe they are using GMP (in the video you can see the standards they adhere to) UGLs or HG can be GMP as long as they follow the proper procedures of manufactoring . Whether or not AP and BD are HG or UGL I don't think anyone knows for sure but they do have great products either way and follow sterile procedure. I would love to see someone who is quick to dismiss them give them a try and post a log of their results. I have used AP products and I can assure you that you would be happy with the results. I would never say that about any other brand other than the U.S. pharm grade products. Would love to see a log from you on their products. Just wanted to give you my honest opinion. Good Luck and I hope you find what you are looking for. NPP is an awesome addition to a test cycle.

You make very valid points in your post. However, i think you are misinterpreting what a lot of people say about AP. AP is quality gear no doubt about that, the price however is what baffles a lot of people. You brought up an argument with US pharmacy HG test being expensive. However, AP is not US HG FDA approved product. I am sure many doubters of AP would gladly pay AP's price for test IF it was produced in the US under the supervision and licensing of US FDA. Comparing Thai pharmaceutical companies with US is like comparing a Korean car to a BMW, both are licensed manufacturers, however quality standards are different, thus the price is different as well. Of course, an argument of sterility and health issues comes up, health in my mind is priceless, however i am yet to see a post from anyone that has used UG gear sold by sponsors such as naps, z, EK and others saying that they got abscess because of the dirty gear and not their injection techniques.
Just my opinion on this matter

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Asia Pharma and the new British Dragon are going to be the best choices you are going to get. They will be as close as your going to get. I am not going any further than that . You have your mind made up about them obviously but have probably never used them. Real gear costs money. Most places are not selling real HG Test or anything else that is Human Grade for that matter. The prices are much too low to be real. Look at U.S. Prescription grade test for even the generic version and see how much real Human Grade costs. TRT test is expensive if you get a pharm brand (not compound pharmacy stuff because some times these are not made properly). Anyway what I am saying is if you are going international AP or BD is going to be your best bet. AP has videos of the manufactoring and testing of their products. I believe they are using GMP (in the video you can see the standards they adhere to) UGLs or HG can be GMP as long as they follow the proper procedures of manufactoring . Whether or not AP and BD are HG or UGL I don't think anyone knows for sure but they do have great products either way and follow sterile procedure. I would love to see someone who is quick to dismiss them give them a try and post a log of their results. I have used AP products and I can assure you that you would be happy with the results. I would never say that about any other brand other than the U.S. pharm grade products. Would love to see a log from you on their products. Just wanted to give you my honest opinion. Good Luck and I hope you find what you are looking for. NPP is an awesome addition to a test cycle.

You are wrong brother, Human grade cost nothing more then UGL,
Human grade is cheap, only some of these sponsors make it expensive!!!!
The mark ups are just sick.

Ps i deleted pricing info

Originally Posted by TGB1987

I only try to give the best advice that I can to the members here in every situation. In this case you are not going to find a better product for what you are looking for. The pic posted above from Himik was a czech product that I believe is no longer around and has no real use to a bodybuilder because of the low dose. I support WP because I have used his products and they are you actually get what you pay for that is it. They are good and unlike most others out there when you pay for something you actually get the product you pay for not a substitute or a lesser dose or a fake. You know what you are getting but it does cost more. I just wanted to help like I do with anything else but apparently when I recommend a good sponser with real products suddenly no one wants to listen. Funny isn't? I get nothing if you decide to use WP other than the satisfaction of knowing that you will get what you pay for and will be happy from the results I guess that makes me a bad guy for trying to help you. Whatever you do what you want but I wanted to save you time. As I said good luck!

Thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by Himik

You make very valid points in your post. However, i think you are misinterpreting what a lot of people say about AP. AP is quality gear no doubt about that, the price however is what baffles a lot of people. You brought up an argument with US pharmacy HG test being expensive. However, AP is not US HG FDA approved product. I am sure many doubters of AP would gladly pay AP's price for test IF it was produced in the US under the supervision and licensing of US FDA. Comparing Thai pharmaceutical companies with US is like comparing a Korean car to a BMW, both are licensed manufacturers, however quality standards are different, thus the price is different as well. Of course, an argument of sterility and health issues comes up, health in my mind is priceless, however i am yet to see a post from anyone that has used UG gear sold by sponsors such as naps, z, EK and others saying that they got abscess because of the dirty gear and not their injection techniques.
Just my opinion on this matter

You also make some valid points. But as you said with the BMW comparison. BMW is not american and it costs more than most american cars. Just because something is not from the U.S. doesn't mean it is not as good or better. AP is safe quality gear. That is why I like to recommend it to those that can afford it. I use it for the basics like test and occasionally a few others like Deca but some of the stuff like var is just too much. You may not know this but there have been issues with some of the UGLs here. Did you see HeavyIron's thread about Do you know what you are injecting. You made valid points as did I only thing I can tell is I am not trying to steer you wrong I promise you that. I like AP and I am confident that if you tried even one bottle of the test you would understand why. Also if you get a chance check out the AP site it is really informative. I know they are not FDA approved in the US and I am not sure if they are approved in Thailand though WP says some of the products are. Whether they are HG or UGL I really don't know but I can tell you they work and blood work proves it. They are dosed right and they are produced to GMP standards. They do not hide their production processes. In the Bill Llewellyn's Underground anabolics book in 2009 they actualy used AP as an example of showing all the processes of how they make they AAS. They have videos showing how they make the products which is cool to see in general but it also shows how careful and clean they are with production. It is something I wish every lab did UGL or HG. It is nice to see how they actually produce and whether or not they do things correctly. I hope that you will make an effort to try the products one time just to see for yourself.

Originally Posted by M4A3

Thanks for your input.

Whether you believe it or not. I make nothing for being a mod here. I do it because I want to help others out. I truly trust the products I recommended and use them myself . I know there are some issues regarding these products like the are the HG or UGL, are the THai FDA approved or not, Prices being higher than what we like to see. In the end they are good. Sorry for giving you my opinion I know it always brings controversy with it but I wanted you to know my opinion because that is how I honestly feel. I have seen some pretty messed up things done to people from sources since I have been doing this. Trust me there are things that would make you not want to use certain products again. In the end you want the best and I hope you find that. I also hope you get the chance to try BD or AP products even if it is not from WP because they are good.

Originally Posted by Imosted

You are wrong brother, Human grade cost nothing more then UGL,
Human grade is cheap, only some of these sponsors make it expensive!!!!
The mark ups are just sick.

Ps i deleted pricing info

No you are wrong. The Human Grade that you claim is cheap is not actually Human Grade. It is counterfeit. That is real talk as Superman's daddy would say. Do you think you can really buy Human grade that is legit for 3 to 5 dollars an amp just because you buy it in bulk. Sorry but I fell for that a couple times and after using Real HG or even good UGL gear I found out what I thought was Human Grade was actually fake or counterfeit because most that you buy online is. Real Human Grade would not be underdosed. Sad but True. Some do mark up more than others no doubt about that but you will always have that. The longer you are in this the more you will see. The more you try the more you will know. My advice is try out different brands until you find the one that works the best. Get blood work done so you know it is not placebo effect. Then you will know the truth. This discussion is over. There will be no winner here. If you don't like my preference try it for yourself to see why I like it or don't . It really don't matter to me. . Check out nandrorapid by alpha pharma. It is made in India. Something you may be interested in.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

No you are wrong. The Human Grade that you claim is cheap is not actually Human Grade. It is counterfeit. That is real talk as Superman's daddy would say. Do you think you can really buy Human grade that is legit for 3 to 5 dollars an amp just because you buy it in bulk. Sorry but I fell for that a couple times and after using Real HG or even good UGL gear I found out what I thought was Human Grade was actually fake or counterfeit because most that you buy online is. Real Human Grade would not be underdosed. Sad but True. Some do mark up more than others no doubt about that but you will always have that. The longer you are in this the more you will see. The more you try the more you will know. My advice is try out different brands until you find the one that works the best. Get blood work done so you know it is not placebo effect. Then you will know the truth. This discussion is over. There will be no winner here. If you don't like my preference try it for yourself to see why I like it or don't . It really don't matter to me. . Check out nandrorapid by alpha pharma. It is made in India. Something you may be interested in.

Are you saying Naps, Qvolt, UncleZ and EK all sell bunk HG? Because they all sell HG that is far cheaper than Asia Pharma.

Thank you for the info on nandrorapid. It sounds interesting.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

No you are wrong. The Human Grade that you claim is cheap is not actually Human Grade. It is counterfeit. That is real talk as Superman's daddy would say. Do you think you can really buy Human grade that is legit for 3 to 5 dollars an amp just because you buy it in bulk. Sorry but I fell for that a couple times and after using Real HG or even good UGL gear I found out what I thought was Human Grade was actually fake or counterfeit because most that you buy online is. Real Human Grade would not be underdosed. Sad but True. Some do mark up more than others no doubt about that but you will always have that. The longer you are in this the more you will see. The more you try the more you will know. My advice is try out different brands until you find the one that works the best. Get blood work done so you know it is not placebo effect. Then you will know the truth. This discussion is over. There will be no winner here. If you don't like my preference try it for yourself to see why I like it or don't . It really don't matter to me. . Check out nandrorapid by alpha pharma. It is made in India. Something you may be interested in.

Bro i am not talking about American Gear. These sponsors sells stuff from international market. have you ever been outside of US?
It is up to you, you can choose someone who can sell the same shit with 500% mark up or someone else who uses 200% mark up.
And you are saying Euro king, q vault are selling fake stuff, nice to here it from a moderator, wow
If I am Allowed i would like to post the real pharmacy prices of some "Expensive" legit human grade prices.
If not I am done with this argument because it is just funny...

TGB1987 You know what Disregard my last post. Let me ask you something, the most expensive HG gear is Primobolan correct?
Here is the question. How much do you think it costs at a Turkish pharmacy to purchase 1 amp of primo? PLS ANSWER

Originally Posted by M4A3

Are you saying Naps, Qvolt, UncleZ and EK all sell bunk HG? Because they all sell HG that is far cheaper than Asia Pharma.

Thank you for the info on nandrorapid. It sounds interesting.

I don't want to throw any sponsers out there but be careful that is all I am going to say. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I am not saying that it has to be as expensive as AP to be real but use your judgement. I will say just because they are sponsers here doesn't mean they are g2g. Buyer Beware. If you don't believe me go and try some of the cheap HG out there take one amp a week for a few weeks and get blood work that will give you a definite answer.

Originally Posted by Imosted

TGB1987 You know what Disregard my last post. Let me ask you something, the most expensive HG gear is Primobolan correct?
Here is the question. How much do you think it costs at a Turkish pharmacy to purchase 1 amp of primo? PLS ANSWER

Primo is one of the most often faked HG steroids you can buy. Sometimes even the pharmacies don't know it is fake. This is happening more and more in the U.S. believe it or not with common prescriptions. If you can get real HG so cheap go and buy it from Turkey. HG brand name AAS are not cheap.

Hey Imosted I got another question for you. If HG gear is so cheap why are you running a log on a Test 400 blend from Biogen?

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Hey Imosted I got another question for you. If HG gear is so cheap why are you running a log on a Test 400 blend from Biogen?

If you answer my question i will answer yours? LOL, it is funny how you answer with another question.

It is my choice to use anything i want, I wanted to inject some canola OIL
And I think you already know There is no HG TREN in the world we also talked about this correct?
Anyways bro whatever you want to believe then believe in it. Do not tell me how much gear costs because you have no clue.lol

Bashing WP or Asia Pharma wasn't the objective of this thread... but it seems that is the direction it has taken. I just wanted to know about HG NPP.

Pity Durabolin is no longer made.

I am not bashing anyone I am only saying that mark up is huge and real HG gear is cheaper than what people make it out.