Thread: gear at a young age

Don't do it, that's my advice.

You got to look at the plus and the negatives for yourself and decide.

There is no real answer anyone can give you that you already know.
No one can say for sure running a cycle will be work out OK or turn out bad.


What was your proposed cycle ?
Post a picture up.

Anabolics answered your question but why does your buddy presume that Arnold and Ronnie are fine? Because they are still breathing?

Keep up your current good work and give it a few more years.

Your natural T levels are so high right now, with proper diet, rest and training, you can become one big cat without using AAS. It can always wait, but you can never go back once you pin.

Please wait.

i did it at 17 and now im 24 and on Testosterone Replacement Therapy for life. to be honest, it was more because i didnt understand and trivialized the importance of PCT. most idiots in highschool dont. anyway, use these years of natural high test to become an expert on steroids so when you do finally decide to take them, youll know EXACTLY what to do.

Originally Posted by mggisforme

aside from your goofy face you look fucking awsome and DO NOT need juice right now. wait a few more years

Hey dud my hat off to you for actually putting time in to think about things before you do them...by the look of your profile pic it looks as though you have put in some real time at the gym...normally younger guys come on here and say need. Advice I'm 145lbs and 19yo and I want to get jacked what's your opinion...usually I say train right and eat right and you will see amazing gains..but in your case your a pretty lean person that has a good amount of size already...i always tend to say stay natural for as long as possable or untill you hit a plataue and want to go to the next level..as seid before on this thread only you know what is best for yourself..the pros of aas in my eyes always outweigh the cons in my eyes but remember one thing once yo cross over that it no turning back..be safe brother

i was going to run test c for 500mg/week 10 weeks with dbol 30mg first four weeks and anastrozole .5mg ed until dbol is up and then just take it eod and hcg start taking 250iu twice a week starting on week four and for pct run the anastrozole for a couple weeks probably with clomid.....

and what age would be a better to start? 25??..

thank you for all the input though i think i'll wait a while to turn to the darkside

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Originally Posted by mggisforme

i was going to run test c for 500mg/week 10 weeks with dbol 30mg first four weeks and anastrozole .5mg ed until dbol is up and then just take it eod and hcg start taking 250iu twice a week starting on week four and for pct run the anastrozole for a couple weeks probably with clomid.....

and what age would be a better to start? 25??..

thank you for all the input though i think i'll wait a while to turn to the darkside

Tme to start in my opinion is when you are doing everything right, diet, rest and training wise and the gains have diminished considerably.

You've got time, waiting is a good idea.

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

i did it at 17 and now im 24 and on Testosterone Replacement Therapy for life. to be honest, it was more because i didnt understand and trivialized the importance of PCT. most idiots in highschool dont. anyway, use these years of natural high test to become an expert on steroids so when you do finally decide to take them, youll know EXACTLY what to do.

bro how do you feel about being on trt for life? not judging you at all for starting so young. just wanna see if it's something you don't mind doing or deeply regret, etc.

what was the experience like of finding out you needed to go on trt compared to now that you've been on it for some time?

I see a lot of potential, kid. Good build and genetics for sure.

You'll fill out for the next 5 years easilly. By mid 20's once you become stagnant and have reached genetic potentials, go for it.

Yes, arnie probably started at around 16 or so. (or so the rumors go)

There are guys who want to go pro and will go balls to the wall. If youre man enough to accept the consequences of your actions, who can judge you? TRT will more than likely be a reality if you decide to run gears now.

Originally Posted by alphabolic

bro how do you feel about being on trt for life? not judging you at all for starting so young. just wanna see if it's something you don't mind doing or deeply regret, etc.

what was the experience like of finding out you needed to go on trt compared to now that you've been on it for some time?

im probably in the minority but i love it. im sure when i hit 30 or so i would have opted for it anyway, so im glad im already on and dont have to worry about my levels dropping as i get older. i like to know i can control my levels and keep them in the high end of normal. i do the injections weekly and i have to say im starting to look foward to them. the whole anxiety about injecting is really becoming a thing of the past. and last but not least, no more PCT if i cycle


my only concern is prostate cancer which is in my family. i get my PSA with every blood test. get the infamous ass exam once a year and am on a host of vitamins/supplements that are said to be good for the prostate.

Just Run that cycle. It's not about Natty T levels, as by age 35 you're gonna have shit for T anyways. You probably have a few more years of good training til you'll start feeling like an old man. Some guys complaining about Testosterone Therapy? Define "Therapy". 20-23 years old is almost identical,physically and hormonally speaking . Yet most users here would tell a 23 year old to go out and get some gear. You're 20, your hormones will bounce back.
You've got some good size on you now. As long as you are smart about your cycle and Pct you will be fine.
And on the other end, research what may/may not happen with younger steroid users.
Worst case scenario is that it will be hard for you to put on muscle as a natty. But then again, after any steroid use it will be hard to put on muscle naturally.
Just weight the pros and cons and dont let any dipshits tell you how to run yo life.

Honestly you look great man, I would recommend staying natty for a few years. However, if you do decide to run a cycle make sure you have AI/HCG/Clomid/Nolva on hand before the 1st pin. Good luck in your endeavors, regardless of what you decide to do!

Originally Posted by Winny_ng 24/7

Just Run that cycle. It's not about Natty T levels, as by age 35 you're gonna have shit for T anyways. You probably have a few more years of good training til you'll start feeling like an old man. Some guys complaining about Testosterone Therapy? Define "Therapy". 20-23 years old is almost identical,physically and hormonally speaking . Yet most users here would tell a 23 year old to go out and get some gear. You're 20, your hormones will bounce back.
You've got some good size on you now. As long as you are smart about your cycle and Pct you will be fine.
And on the other end, research what may/may not happen with younger steroid users.
Worst case scenario is that it will be hard for you to put on muscle as a natty. But then again, after any steroid use it will be hard to put on muscle naturally.
Just weight the pros and cons and dont let any dipshits tell you how to run yo life.

the biggest concern i have are ED related problems in the near or distant future because of a cycle. i wanna know the odds/stats on that topic.

im 22 and my natty test levels are 307 total and 6.8 free. then a 2nd time i got tested i was 315 total 6.7 free yet im supposed to be at my highest at this age.... it feels alot like i stopped growing early. im 5'11 210 and been the same height since 18. my libido was sky high from age 14-20 and took a dive after that. i doubt it's gonna be peaking any time soon.

Originally Posted by alphabolic

the biggest concern i have are ED related problems in the near or distant future because of a cycle. i wanna know the odds/stats on that topic.

im 22 and my natty test levels are 307 total and 6.8 free. then a 2nd time i got tested i was 315 total 6.7 free yet im supposed to be at my highest at this age.... it feels alot like i stopped growing early. im 5'11 210 and been the same height since 18. my libido was sky high from age 14-20 and took a dive after that. i doubt it's gonna be peaking any time soon.

Have you cycled or did you just get fucked over by mother nature?

Originally Posted by Himik

Have you cycled or did you just get fucked over by mother nature?

i started my first cycle 3 days ago. 8 weeks prop 400mg.

and yea probably shitty genetics for my low test. my doctor said my test levels were fine...i wanted to hit him with a right hook when he said "oh yea it looks like your test levels came our great.....307!!"

Wait a couple more years at least. Try to see how far you can go naturally. You are way ahead of the game and the longer you can keep gaining naturally will only put you further ahead when you juice. Try to see what your life is going end up like envision your goals for the future and decide what you are going to do. I think you have serious potential. Why not enter a natural show or a NPC show. Hell you might destroy at the NPC with no juice which would be amazing at your age. You are truly gifted don't mess it up. Any decision you make can have consequeces so stay on track and follow your dreams. You will know when you are ready. Try to set your life up for what you want to achieve. IF you really want to become a professional bodybuilder I think it can happen just start doing the things needed to establish your base now. Learn about different diet and nutrition techniques. Learn to pose. Do a show to get your feet wet. Continue to build your frame. Natural muscle always seemed to have a different look IMO. Keep building that way and you will have a very dense type of muscle. Keep us posted here on this forum because I think we all expect big things out of you and you should expect the same. Good Luck.

I think I lot of the starting young rhetoric is overblown. It comes down to your genetics, how much gear you use, and for how long. I did a 10 week cycle @ 900mg a week at 20, and I never had any issues with my test levels coming back. Though I regret starting young, I was much more experienced for my next cycle which was almost a year later.

If I could give you any useful advice, it would be this: Do what you want, and do it big.

That is bad advice. Did you see this kid. He truly has potential. Don't try to give bad advice that could cause negative issues for him. You are going to have to watch for people who will do anything to bring you down because of Jealousy and envy of your gifted genetics.

Great advice TGB1987!

Originally Posted by TGB1987

That is bad advice. Did you see this kid. He truly has potential. Don't try to give bad advice that could cause negative issues for him. You are going to have to watch for people who will do anything to bring you down because of Jealousy and envy of your gifted genetics.

I have zero jealousy or envy of his genetics; more power to him for that matter. I've went down the path of starting young, and I don't have many regrets.

Should everyone start young? Probably not. Will starting young reduce your chances of becoming an IFBB pro? Probably not. The guy obviously has great natural potential and I'm not suggesting he use gear. However, it's a personal choice and many people have been successful juicing at a younger age.

At your age, you've got more test running through your system now than you'll ever imagine. Your pic should tell you that. Use it to your advantage.

Keep your nutrition in order and you'll grow like a weed. Stay off the gear until you're much older when you really need it.

Lift big, eat big and rest big.

I saw Ronnie Coleman guest pose at a major SE regional show in 1999 and the rumblings w/in the crowd while he was doing his posing was that he had spent about $100K per year on doctors to continue going.

My point? YOu comment that you & your buddy guess that Ronnie & Arnold were doing those amounts when they were in their 20s and they're "ok". You have no idea if they're ok or not. You never hear about the pros and their health issues w/ AAS. Only if one of them dies or ends up in the hospital (thinking of Flex Wheeler off the top of my head), do you hear about it. You can't draw conclusions from what you read (or dont' read) in Muscle & Fitness about what it is really going on w/ the people who define the sport. This sport is full of dirty little secrets.

IMO you're amazing w/ what you have to work w/ now. What are you trying to accomplish? The more you do naturally, the more you'll accomplish w/ AAS and also the more your body will be able to support w/o it. The impact of AAS on your liver, kidneys, joints, tendons, ligaments, cholesterol levels, blood pressure, etc. will cost you as you grow older. Don't be in a big rush to get on the sauce. IMO you have nothing to prove and everything to achieve w/o gears first. Learn to grow. Learn to work w/ your body & its resources while you have them available. There's no rush.

Originally Posted by mggisforme

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

aside from your goofy face you look fucking awsome and DO NOT need juice right now. wait a few more years

Holy CRAP, mggisforme has a face?

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DAMN!


You don't need gear, bud. Not yet. Are you still making gains?

Originally Posted by Built

Holy CRAP, mggisforme has a face?

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DAMN!

Perv? LOL!


But really... no gears for a while!