Advice please

Hi all, i recently joined and have been reading alot of these posts. I am 22 yrs old, 190lbs 6ft tall. About 18% bf however. I've been training for about 6 years, and for the past year, i've realised that most of my gains have stopped. From that i decided to look into more promising stuff (prohormones, or steroids). With that being said, along with my options, my main priority is to have very little to no liver damage from the cycle i choose, and no gyno. My goal is to reduce bf% (i mainly have fat around my waist, love hanldes) and also a gain in muscle would be a plus.

I would jus like some help with choosing between H-Drol, 1-Andro Rx , Test enanthate, or pink magic (i know this is a natural test booster). Based on my goals and what i wish to avoid, what do you guys recommmend....which would probably have to most liver damage?? Which would help with reduction in fat and gain of lean muscle?? And altho i'm not really a calorie counter, what is a recommmended calorie intake for whichever is a smart choice?

Thanks in advance :)

I think you need to do some more research, you need to fill in the blanks yourself on that stuff and the information is definately out there on all your question. You'll learn more if you search for yourself.

do some digging and if you have any more specific questions the boys and I will be happy to help =)

Right, no sense in being lazy.

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Originally Posted by jus4u

Hi all, i recently joined and have been reading alot of these posts. I am 22 yrs old, 190lbs 6ft tall. About 18% bf however. I've been training for about 6 years, and for the past year, i've realised that most of my gains have stopped. From that i decided to look into more promising stuff (prohormones, or steroids). With that being said, along with my options, my main priority is to have very little to no liver damage from the cycle i choose, and no gyno. My goal is to reduce bf% (i mainly have fat around my waist, love hanldes) and also a gain in muscle would be a plus.

I would jus like some help with choosing between H-Drol, 1-Andro Rx , Test enanthate, or pink magic (i know this is a natural test booster). Based on my goals and what i wish to avoid, what do you guys recommmend....which would probably have to most liver damage?? Which would help with reduction in fat and gain of lean muscle?? And altho i'm not really a calorie counter, what is a recommmended calorie intake for whichever is a smart choice?

Thanks in advance :)

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First off, you are a couple years too young to be considering AAS. Secondly, your bodyfat is too high for a cycle of anabolics. If you start now, you will be at risk for a lot of negative sides.

My advice to you is to post your diet and training routine in the appropriate forums, and let us help you there first. Once you get dialed in, I think that you will make outstanding gains naturally.

x2 look into a better diet if you have one at all, 6 ft 190 18% bf, unless you made a mistake posting that, your bf is too high to start something, you could probably make some good gains fixing your diet and possibly your routine

X3 i bet youll see more gains with a new diet

best way to reduce bodyfat is still diet + cardio. Run an EC stack if you like, that'll help as well and won't have any of the sides you're trying to avoid. But as far as liver damage, injectable test is wayy better than any of those orals.

Hey everyone, thanks alot, i really made a mistake on body fat there.....13%...sorry....i was a little confused....and i jus measured it to make sure. With respect to my diet and training plan...my diet is fairly well balanced. With respect to the "love handles" honestly i was fat...lost about 30lbs of fat....was down to about 180....and gained muscle from there. For some reason no matter how much i diet or train, i lose fat elsewhere but there seems a bit more difficult. I train 5 or 6 days a week, cardio on 3 out of them for 20-30 minutes @ least. And from my readings i would say my diet is about 80% clean....prob the occasional alcohol may be a problem.

Yes i did my own research, i am possibly leaning to H-Drol, although i know the liver damage risk is higher with the orals, the problem here is to get the injectables into my country. If i go with the H-Drol (i am still looking for the injectables locally atm) i was wondering if anyone knows how toxic it may be....and any other side effects that may be interesting to know about. If i go with the H-Drol i would definately use it with something like Cycle Support from Anabloic Innovations. Taughts? Ideas? Concerns?

I agree that you are too young. I waited till I was 26 for a reason.

Also, you might want to consider completely overhauling your routine.

Cycle this
http://www.horizonfitness.com/upload...30_Hero_LG.jpg

And this
http://www.perdue.com/files/Easy%20S...%20Chicken.jpg

For 3 months.

lol. cycle this, ... I think 22 is an awesome age to start, and before i go on i would like to say that i have never done injectible steroids, and im 27. I dont know the effects of such a thing. although shit look at Schwarzenegger, he started at 19. You dont see him dying of a heart attack or having liver transplants.

If I were you, I would find some pharmaceutical grade test, and dont forget about the Growth Hormones, this will allow you to increase your bodily amount of muscle cells, not to mention, ligament, tendon, cartilage and bone cells. And of course your Anti aromatase PCT's. make sure you get 2 solid hrs in the gym 3-4 times a week, and balance your meats and carbs with a good variety of vegetables, 4000-5000 calories a day, drink alot of water and dont jack off. you will be a monster in 5-6 months.

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Originally Posted by antiage

lol. cycle this, ... I think 22 is an awesome age to start, and before i go on i would like to say that i have never done injectible steroids, and im 27. I dont know the effects of such a thing. although shit look at Schwarzenegger, he started at 19. You dont see him dying of a heart attack or having liver transplants.

If I were you, I would find some pharmaceutical grade test, and dont forget about the Growth Hormones, this will allow you to increase your bodily amount of muscle cells, not to mention, ligament, tendon, cartilage and bone cells. And of course your Anti aromatase PCT's. make sure you get 2 solid hrs in the gym 3-4 times a week, and balance your meats and carbs with a good variety of vegetables, 4000-5000 calories a day, drink alot of water and dont jack off. you will be a monster in 5-6 months.

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This is one of the dumbest posts I think I have ever seen...and I've seen a lot.

hey but the dont jackoff part made me lol.

Damn, that kind of hurt my feelings man.:jerkit: I think that if he is 190 lbs at 6 ft, then he is definitely not 18 % body fat, i dont know man, if i could go back to when i was 22, I would have found some growth and PH. so best of luck.

Hey everyone, thanks for the advice and comments.....i would take all this into consideration...and i would let anyone knows if i decide to do anything...thanks alot tho. Appreciate it :)