Thread: PH frontloading

IMO go pick up a phera clone in the buy/sell/trade section

phera is the shit

Originally Posted by jbt0214

I have everything I need (almost) to begin my cycle, I DO NOT have Dbol, so can anyone suggest an equivalent front load, ie, Super DMZ, Methadrol, etc?

I think Super DMZ would make an excellent kick start to a cycle.

I will be using Methadrol Extreme from IronMaglabs to kickstart my next cycle. Only a few weeks away! Can't wait!

You really can't top SD in the PH world, but it's extremely harsh. Phera seemed extremely similar to Dbol for me though.

Originally Posted by GMO

I think Super DMZ would make an excellent kick start to a cycle.

It just so happens I stopped by my neighborhood nutrition store and they had one bottle of Super DMZ left, charged an arm and a leg, but from what I am hearing and reading, it is worth it!

Originally Posted by JohnnyDoe

You really can't top SD in the PH world, but it's extremely harsh. Phera seemed extremely similar to Dbol for me though.

Haven't tried sd because of all the shit you hear about side effects, but for me phera was amazing. I gained more quickly on 20-30mg of phera than I am on 30mg of dbol stacked with test. Seemed to put on a fair amount of water weight but the gains were tremendous for me. Plus I didn't have any side effects really, I felt good throughout the cycle except for a little lethargy towards the end (probably because I didn't use test...). I'd say phera and sd are at the top of the ph world, it's a shame phera's so hard to find now though. I'm considering grabbing a few bottles while it's still around to use as a kickstart for my next few cycles.

if you can find phera for less than a c-note, go with that for sure.

Otherwise, SD made for a killer kickstart to my first test cycle. Super-DMZ would be even better I presume.

Originally Posted by jbt0214

I have everything I need (almost) to begin my cycle, I DO NOT have Dbol, so can anyone suggest an equivalent front load, ie, Super DMZ, Methadrol, etc?

Depends on your goals. Bulk? Cut? Recomp?

Super DMZ will yield dryer gains with good strength. Better suited for recomp/cutting cycles.

Methadrol Extreme will be notibly wetter due to the Max LMG and is a better mass builder. Less qualitive, more quantitive. Good strength, VERY good muscle recovery as well. Very Dbol-like in terms of gains minus the mood boost.


Ive used both products btw.

I got Methadrol Extreme that I don't plan to use, I got 3 bottles and decided against it. All are unopened and would sell for $45 shipped, which would be a great kick starter.

Originally Posted by Diesel618

if you can find phera for less than a c-note, go with that for sure.

Otherwise, SD made for a killer kickstart to my first test cycle. Super-DMZ would be even better I presume.

I see phera clones for $50ish in the buy/sell/trade forum pretty often

you can get sd for $25 some places but if the money's not a problem and you don't mind a bit of water, I think you'd be happier with phera

no shit? I'm gonna have to start checkin that forum out.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

I see phera clones for $50ish in the buy/sell/trade forum pretty often

you can get sd for $25 some places but if the money's not a problem and you don't mind a bit of water, I think you'd be happier with phera

I got quite a few good PHs for sale in that area