test e/dbol/npp cycle

**IanM4208** · 05-15-2011, 02:50 PM

Hey y'all. I first wanna say thank u to everybody that contributes to this board. I've only been a member here a short time, but I have learned an immense amount of knowlegde so far. Way more than I have learned in the past 2 years on another board.
So I have been contemplating my seconds cycle for quite some time now and I have came to the conclusion of the compounds I would like to use. Since my first cycle was 500 mg of test for 12 weeks with a superdrol kickstart, it seemed to be the next logical step to do test/deca/dbol for a mass cycle. However, since I haven't used either deca nor dbol, I don't wanna run them at the same time. I know people say they don't really feel the deca until week 5 or so, but I want to be certain of what I feel from the different compounds. So I figured I'd apply the same logic as one would use when trying tren... go with the short ester. So here is my proposed cycle:
Week 1-4: Test e- 500 mg
Dbol 50 mg
week 5-12: test e 750 mg
Npp 350 mg
Test will be injected 250 mg at a time for 2-3 times a week depending on dose
Dbol will be popped consistently thru the day with a double dose preworkout
Npp will be 100 mg eod
I will wait the standard 2 weeks n start my pct. Pct will consist of nolva/clomid and possibly igf-des if I am done researchng it by then. I will have caber and letro on hand to keep things at bay. May even use caber and adex from the beginning to be precautionary. I still have a couple months before I begin the cycle, so i will be able to prime up first.
Btw I am 5ft 11 inches, currently 205 but plan to be around 195 when I begin the cycle. My current bf is 13% and I plan to be around 8% when I begin this bulking cycle.
thanx and reps for any posts. Please post any advice, questions, comments or concerns

**Himik** · 05-15-2011, 02:53 PM

Everything looks good, one suggestion would be running HCG while on cycle @ 500ui e5d.

**IanM4208** · 05-15-2011, 03:00 PM

Wow! That was a fast response.
I have considered it, but I decided against it for a couple reasons. Extra cost, extra sides, ect.
Plus when I have small nuts, it makes my dick look HUGE... or atleast it looks normal size for once
Thanx

**GMO** · 05-15-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Himik

Everything looks good, one suggestion would be running HCG while on cycle @ 500ui e5d.

^^^This...hcg is cheap bro and when running a 19-nor, it is essential IMO for fast recovery. It isn't just about cosmetics bro, hcg will help you recover faster.

Also, personally I would run the NPP for the whole twelve weeks and the d-bol for the first 6.

**IanM4208** · 05-15-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by GMO

^^^This...hcg is cheap bro and when running a 19-nor, it is essential IMO for fast recovery. It isn't just about cosmetics bro, hcg will help you recover faster.

Also, personally I would run the NPP for the whole twelve weeks and the d-bol for the first 6.

Thanx. That's why I posted this up. I will look into hcg. Does hcg come ready to inject or do I have to do some preparing of it?
I will probably stick with my current layout of the Npp, so I don't over lap new compounds. I feel I would be greedy by doing the Npp throughout

**Yaz!** · 05-15-2011, 04:12 PM

I don't really like the cycle, don't like there's no AI & DA but only "on hand" which is something i disagree with, plus no HCG which this type of cycle meets IMO the criteria for it's use even though it's a risky drug that shouldn't be used very often.

Example 1:
Weeks 1-10 --> Test. E 400-500mg/week
Weeks 1-8/10 --> NPP 100-125mg E3D
Weeks 1-4/6 --> D-bol 20-40mg ED
Weeks 1-12 --> Arimidex 0,50-1mg EOD OR Aromasin 12,5-25mg ED
Weeks 1-8/10 --> Bromocriptine 2,5-5mg ED OR Pramipexole 0,15-0,50mg ED
Weeks 7-10 --> HCG 500IU/week (split in 2 equal doses spaced 3,5days apart)
Weeks 11-12 --> HCG 1000IU/week (split in 2 equal doses spaced 3,5days apart)

Example 2:
Weeks 1-8 --> Test. Prop 75-100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6/8 --> NPP 100-125mg E3D
Weeks 1-4/6 --> D-bol 20-40mg ED (optional)
Weeks 1-8--> Arimidex 0,50-1mg EOD OR Aromasin 12,5-25mg ED
Weeks 1-6/8--> Bromocriptine 2,5-5mg ED OR Pramipexole 0,15-0,50mg ED
Weeks 3-6 --> HCG 500IU/week (split in 2 equal doses spaced 3,5days apart)
Weeks 7-8 --> HCG 1000IU/week (split in 2 equal doses spaced 3,5days apart)

PCT:

Example 1:
Weeks 1-4 --> Clomid 100 | 75 | 50 | 25mg ED
Weeks 1-4 --> Nolva 40 | 30 | 20 | 10mg ED

Example 2:
Weeks 1-4 --> Clomid 100 | 50 | 50 | 25mg ED
Weeks 1-4 --> Nolva 40 | 20 | 20 | 10mg ED

Tips:
1) Some liver/lipid protection is advised, nothing crazy.
2) With Ex. 1 cycle, PCT should start 2 weeks after last injection - with Ex. 2 depending on the last injections from 3 to 4,5 days.

**IanM4208** · 05-15-2011, 04:14 PM

Although I may consider running the dbol 6 weeks, with it overlapping the Npp for 2 weeks

**IanM4208** · 05-15-2011, 04:33 PM

Yaz, u r great! U have helped me out tons here and over at am boards. I know u r a big believer that less is more and I remember the informative talk we had about test/19 nor ratios. I will do hcg, just gotta do research on it. I will take caber n adex as well. Thanx for ur input.
I am fairly new.to this. So I will have to form my own opinion on things like test/tren ratios, test/deca ratios, hcg, and different doses for various drugs.
Thanx everybody! Keep the input coming

**Yaz!** · 05-15-2011, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by IanM4208

Yaz, u r great! U have helped me out tons here and over at am boards. I know u r a big believer that less is more and I remember the informative talk we had about test/19 nor ratios. I will do hcg, just gotta do research on it. I will take caber n adex as well. Thanx for ur input.
I am fairly new.to this. So I will have to form my own opinion on things like test/tren ratios, test/deca ratios, hcg, and different doses for various drugs.
Thanx everybody! Keep the input coming

Thank you - i think i remember you.
Yes, i'm indeed a big believer of the "less is more" theory and i try to get as many people as i can in this way of thinking.
If you go with Cabergoline dose it EOD OR E3D at 0,50-1mg.
Good for you for researching this whole game more.

**IanM4208** · 05-16-2011, 08:21 PM

Bump for some more responses

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