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It's pretty much there. I would run the test and deca at 500/400. Add in the d-bols at week 6-10 and finish out with the proviron after dropping the dianabol to harden up. Use aromasin throughout at 12.5 mg/d. Get some hCG and use it at 250 iu EOD or ETD from weeks three up to PCT. That's what I would do.

They perscribe trt to 24 year olds?

Originally Posted by Dolfan84

They perscribe trt to 24 year olds?

my first cycle was in highschool when i knew nothing and had no buisness touching gear. i never even heard of PCT. i came off the test and things were never really the same. it wasnt until a few years later i started testing my T levels. the levels were consistently in the low 200s/high 100s.

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

So today marks the day that all my gear came in. got a whole lot of goodies:

-Sten Nolvadex
-Sten Aromasin
-RS Nolvadex
-RS Aromasin
-GenShi Arimidex
-GenShi Dianabol
-GP Proviron
-GP Dianabol
-GP Deca
-GP Test Cyp
-GenShi Test Cyp

*I want to do a cycle anywhere from 12 to 14 weeks.
*I want it to consist of pretty much everything above. So it will be a Test/Deca/Dbol/Proviron cycle. Just need some advice (dosages, what AI to use, when to use it, etc.)
*Im looking to bulk but obviously don’t want to bloat to much, which I am prone to.
*im 5’11” and 190lbs and 24 years old
*past cycles include a Sustanon only cycle, Test/Dbol cycle and an M-drol only cycle.
*Deca and Proviron are completely new to me.
*I am a TRT patient, no PCT is needed.

Whatta ya thinking ladies???

Did you use a board sponsor? if so which one?

i'd do the following as i've recently developed a liking for double dipping the orals in a cycle;

weeks 1-12 test cyp 750mg ew
weeks 1-12 deca 500mg ew
weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
weeks 9-12 dbol (depending on results and tolerance) either same as first run or; 50,50,75,100mg ed
weeks 1-12 proviron 50mg ed-watch the prostate or; weeks 5-8 proviron @50 mg ed
weeks 1-6 adex.5mg ed/eod
weeks 7-12 aromasin 12.5mg ed

thats what I would do with those goodies, minus the proviron. You have enough deca and dbol from the pics as those are methan 50s. and just enough test cyp as you have 40ml correct?
not sure on your supply of proviron, adex and asin so not sure if you've got enough on that.

hope this gives you an idea

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Did you use a board sponsor? if so which one?

i'd do the following as i've recently developed a liking for double dipping the orals in a cycle;

weeks 1-12 test cyp 750mg ew
weeks 1-12 deca 500mg ew
weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
weeks 9-12 dbol (depending on results and tolerance) either same as first run or; 50,50,75,100mg ed
weeks 1-12 proviron 50mg ed-watch the prostate or; weeks 5-8 proviron @50 mg ed
weeks 1-6 adex.5mg ed/eod
weeks 7-12 aromasin 12.5mg ed

thats what I would do with those goodies, minus the proviron. You have enough deca and dbol from the pics as those are methan 50s. and just enough test cyp as you have 40ml correct?
not sure on your supply of proviron, adex and asin so not sure if you've got enough on that.

hope this gives you an idea

i have (3) 10ml bottles of GP test cyp and (5) 5ml bottles of GenShi Test Cyp. i also have a little bit of my script of test cyp. i was planning on running the proviron all the way through; why would you opt to leave it out? im worried about my prostate as well; prostate cancer runs in my family. i take tons of supplements for it. i definitly have more aromasin than arimidex.

oh yea, Naps and EK for all my gear. everything went well with both of them.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

It's pretty much there. I would run the test and deca at 500/400. Add in the d-bols at week 6-10 and finish out with the proviron after dropping the dianabol to harden up. Use aromasin throughout at 12.5 mg/d. Get some hCG and use it at 250 iu EOD or ETD from weeks three up to PCT. That's what I would do.

Glycomann I like this layout. This guy knows his stuff take advantage of a good layout.

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

i have (3) 10ml bottles of GP test cyp and (5) 5ml bottles of GenShi Test Cyp. i also have a little bit of my script of test cyp. i was planning on running the proviron all the way through; why would you opt to leave it out? im worried about my prostate as well; prostate cancer runs in my family. i take tons of supplements for it. i definitly have more aromasin than arimidex.

oh yea, Naps and EK for all my gear. everything went well with both of them.

Ahh ok wasn't sure if they were the 2ml vials, you'll be well in the clear with the test dosage.
I have not used proviron yet due to prostate concerns, but if you've got all the necessary protectants in place then there is no reason not to run it throughout.
In that case i'd run the adex until at most half 6 weeks in then switch to the aromasin, just based on the fact aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and will be more usefull after all the gear as completely kicked in IMO

Originally Posted by Glycomann

It's pretty much there. I would run the test and deca at 500/400. Add in the d-bols at week 6-10 and finish out with the proviron after dropping the dianabol to harden up. Use aromasin throughout at 12.5 mg/d. Get some hCG and use it at 250 iu EOD or ETD from weeks three up to PCT. That's what I would do.

As he's not performing PCT due to being on TRT there is no need for the HCG surely?

You can still use hcg it has nothing to do with Pct. It is mostly aesthetic but keeps your balls nice and big. Hcg can be run during any cycle. Stiop prior to pct

Originally Posted by trapzilla

In that case i'd run the adex until at most half 6 weeks in then switch to the aromasin, just based on the fact aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and will be more usefull after all the gear as completely kicked in IMO

ok so this intrigues me. never heard of this before. ive heard adex will produce more side effects than aromasin. what is better at reducing bloat and other estro sides?

HCG is utilised prior to PCT to help one recover from endocrine shutdown faster and more efficiently so surely it has eveything to do with PCT? "In males, hCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone" hence its purpose is to provide testosterone that is produced prior to the pituitary releasing LH, which clomid stimulates hence its use in pct.

It seems like a bit of waste to use HCG purely for cosmetic reasons. but that is just me

That's why it's not mandatory. It can actually shut you down just like aas if run post cycle.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

It's pretty much there. I would run the test and deca at 500/400. Add in the d-bols at week 6-10 and finish out with the proviron after dropping the dianabol to harden up. Use aromasin throughout at 12.5 mg/d. Get some hCG and use it at 250 iu EOD or ETD from weeks three up to PCT. That's what I would do.

I have an honest, maybe stupid question. Why would he run dbol towards the middle/end of his cycle? I always thought it was brilliant to use it towards the end but I heard on here that it would be harsh on the liver. Can you not kick start 1-4 and jump on it 9-12 for max gains? I'm intrigued..

Test 700mg wk 1-12
Deca 350mh wk 1-12
Dbol 35 or 40mg wk 1-6
Proviron 50 or 75mg wk 1-12
Aromasin 12.5mg ED wk 1-?

^This is what my setup was going to look like originally. how does that look?

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

Test 700mg wk 1-12
Deca 350mh wk 1-12
Dbol 35 or 40mg wk 1-6
Proviron 50 or 75mg wk 1-12
Aromasin 12.5mg ED wk 1-?

^This is what my setup was going to look like originally. how does that look?

Nothing wrong with it at all Junk. as your running two new compounds it may infact be better for you to keep the cycle simple.

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

ok so this intrigues me. never heard of this before. ive heard adex will produce more side effects than aromasin. what is better at reducing bloat and other estro sides?

I've jsut found that adex has been more than enough for the first few weeks of a cycle then I need to swithc to aromasin when blood levels max out, thats all, i put it down to Asin being a suicidal inhibitor, but there may be another factor at work here. With regards to more adex sides i've never suffered any so I couldn't comment.

Aromasin is better for reducing bloat and estro sides, as is the main consenus on this board i think.

Originally Posted by trapzilla

As he's not performing PCT due to being on TRT there is no need for the HCG surely?

hCG will help balance all the steroid hormones. A major site of pregnenolone synthesis is the testes. when the testes are atrophied pregnenolone synthesis is greatly diminished. Pregnenolone is required for synthesis of all steroids including the sex, glucocorticoid, mineralocorticoid and all the intermediates in between. As I understand the endocrine system, hCG should be in all cycles at 250-500 iu every 2-4 days.