Thread: A little bit of a pickle for next cycle

For EQ try "anabolicsteroidsguide.com"
its a nice info place

Why the complication with the test?
Weeks 1-8 will only be at 350 mg and weeks 9-15 will 750 mg?
Low dose with a sudden big leap?
No need for the EQ in this cycle as it already had enuff compounds in it.
Im a fan of more is less, so I would simplify this cycle alot, but to each their own

I'll be pinning twice a week for the test. I'm wondering about EQ since this cycle is the same as my current cycle minus EQ.

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i agree that its a lot of compounds

So it seems EQ is better then deca? Normal dose is 200-400mg/week? Once a week?

I'd still opt for both together. This may be a lot of compounds, but I current ran test/deca/dbol with a tbol finish, this wouldn't be much more then previously.

If I ran EQ, I would opt for a least 18 weeks of test.

go for it breh... take before and after pix

Originally Posted by GymRat707

So it seems EQ is better then deca? Normal dose is 200-400mg/week? Once a week?

I'd still opt for both together. This may be a lot of compounds, but I current ran test/deca/dbol with a tbol finish, this wouldn't be much more then previously.

If I ran EQ, I would opt for a least 18 weeks of test.

Depends what you mean by better. AFAIK deca is much better for gaining strength and mass.

I think i'm making a slight change:

1-8 Test e 250mg x2 weekly
1-8 Test c 50mg x2 weekly
9-18 Test e 325mg x2 weekly
9-18 Test c 100mg x2 weekly
1-4 dbol 30mg/day (RAMP IF NEEDED TO 40MG)
1-16 EQ 200mg x2 weekly
1-7 Deca 300mg x1 week
8-13 Deca 400mg x1 week
HCG 500iu x2 week
Aromasin 12.5 E3D

Cycle support, proper supps, etc will be used.
I may add or subtract test e/c for different mg depending on how much e/c I have towards the end but I want to do 600mg for 8 weeks, and then for the rest of the cycle 800mg.

Again (I don't know if I said) will be my 3rd cycle, 3rd with dbol, 2nd with deca, 1st with eq and 3rd with test e, 1st with c. I figure when I go into this cycle I'll be sitting around 210ish @ 10% BF. I don't plan to cycle again until I have very nice visible abs so I can bulk and gain some serious size again after this one.

I'd like some input from the big guys (GMO, Heavy, Prince) If possible. As well as anyone who's ran a similar cycle.

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

I think i'm making a slight change:

1-8 Test e 250mg x2 weekly
1-8 Test c 50mg x2 weekly
9-18 Test e 325mg x2 weekly
9-18 Test c 100mg x2 weekly
1-4 dbol 30mg/day (RAMP IF NEEDED TO 40MG)
1-16 EQ 200mg x2 weekly
1-7 Deca 300mg x1 week
8-13 Deca 400mg x1 week
HCG 500iu x2 week
Aromasin 12.5 E3D

Cycle support, proper supps, etc will be used.
I may add or subtract test e/c for different mg depending on how much e/c I have towards the end but I want to do 600mg for 8 weeks, and then for the rest of the cycle 800mg.

Again (I don't know if I said) will be my 3rd cycle, 3rd with dbol, 2nd with deca, 1st with eq and 3rd with test e, 1st with c. I figure when I go into this cycle I'll be sitting around 210ish @ 10% BF. I don't plan to cycle again until I have very nice visible abs so I can bulk and gain some serious size again after this one.

I'd like some input from the big guys (GMO, Heavy, Prince) If possible. As well as anyone who's ran a similar cycle.

There's really no need to run the Test E and C together like that. They are almost identical esters and can be switched out one for another without any issue. Pick one E or C...run it until it's gone, then crack open the other ester. What you are doing is an unnecessary pain in the ass pulling from two different vials for essentially the same compound.

This is how I would run these compounds for a bulk:

Wk 1-8 Test E or C 600mg/wk (pinned 2x/wk)
Wk 1-6 D-bol 30-40mg ED
Wk1-13 Deca 350mg/wk (pinned 2x/wk)
Wk1-16 EQ 400-600mg/wk (pinned 2x/wk)
Wk9-18 Test E or C 800mg/wk (pinned 2x/wk)
Wk15-19 D-bol 30-40mg ED
Wk1-18 HCG 500iu x2/wk
Wk1-19 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Wk1-14 Caber 0.5mg/wk

PCT: Clomid 100/75/50/50 Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

^^^ that looks a lot better.

Me? I would choose either the deca or the EQ. Bulking? Deca. Recomp? EQ.

Just my 0.02

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

^^^ that looks a lot better.

Me? I would choose either the deca or the EQ. Bulking? Deca. Recomp? EQ.

Just my 0.02

^^^Good advice Captn...

I would do as GMO says. I would probably think about only running dbol at the beginning though but not a big deal to run it again later in cycle. I also like what Captn' is saying. No need to reallly run both Deca and EQ together. Since you have run Deca before you know what it does why not try EQ. If you want the joint support from Deca then just run it at a low dose like 200mgs a week and up the EQ to 600mgs/wk so you really get a feel for the EQ. Most people really start to see the benefits of EQ at 600mgs/wk. If you drop the Deca altogether then you don't have to worry about Caber or Prami. GMO has a nice setup just tweak it to what you are looking to do.

Why are you upping the test amounts around week 9? Is this because thats when gains start tapering off and this is a way of stretching things out a bit? Any reason you don't recommend then switching to eod when the amounts increase?

Originally Posted by Supervette101

Why are you upping the test amounts around week 9? Is this because thats when gains start tapering off and this is a way of stretching things out a bit? Any reason you don't recommend then switching to eod when the amounts increase?

Why do steroids quit working in 8-10 weeks on cycle?

I figured I'd run E and C together since I figured once I stopped say E, the C would take 4 weeks to kick in since I'm just starting, is that not the case?

As of now, my sole reason for this upcoming cycle will be bulk. That's why I figured both Deca and EQ, why not? But if I should just do one or the other i'll pick once it's closer.

6 weeks of dbol looks yummy, and I could throw in t-bol at the end (ment to say that) but i'm finishing tbol with my current cycle and haven't noticed much at 50mg, then went to 60mg still not much 4 weeks into tbol.

Thanks for the link GMO.

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

I figured I'd run E and C together since I figured once I stopped say E, the C would take 4 weeks to kick in since I'm just starting, is that not the case?

No , the test will already be built up from the enanthate ester. When you switch to test C there will be no lag time in btw. They are almost identical esters, so no worries...

I don't notice T-bol, but at 60mg ED. I'm telling you though...if it is a bulk you are going for, run the D-bol at the beginning and the end. You will not be sorry...

I'm going to do that. Would it really be that dumb to do both EQ and Deca? Would I not really see much more results? I'm just curious on this not questioning others responses.