quick bump
I am currently 6 weeks into my 8 week cycle (1st one ever) I started off with;
week 1-8 100mg Prop EOD
week 2-8 60mg Var ED
week 10-11 50mg Clomid 20 Novla
week 12-14 25mg Clomid 10 Novla
No negative sides to note so far. Strength, appetite, vascularity, all increased. So I feel like I'll be ready for some good stuff for my 2nd run. Time for my stats;
1) Age - 26
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat - 5'11'' 204lb 14%
3) Years of Consistant Training experience - 4
4) Previous Cycle experience - See above
5) Training routine and Diet - 1 major body part a week, very high intensity, heavy weight, train for hypertrophy, doing no less than 5-6 reps. Food will consist of eggs/ground beef/chicken/turkey/white potatoes/pasta/rice/nuts/olive oils/peanut butter/milk/some fruits and veggies. I'd like the ratio to be 40p/50c/20f
6) Cycle Goals - Gain as much muscle mass as possible, I was never a strength guy, I just want size and shape.
I've been researching for many months, lurking boards, and reading handbooks, and decided to try this on for size (pun intended)
The Bulk Cycle
week 1-6 20mg Dbol
week 1-12 600mg Test E
week 1-12 400mg Deca
week 6-12 50mg Proviron
week 1-14 500iu's HCG
week 16-17 100mg Clomid 40mg Novla
week 18-19 50mg Clomid 20mg Novla
I have extra Novla and Adex on hand incase gyno symptoms arise. I was told not to use it unless I HAD to. This is where im confused;
Lets say I get sore nips 4 weeks in, I start the Novla @ 10mg ED until the soreness goes away, then stop? or just skip the Novla and hit it with Adex .5 ED. Once I start taking the Adex to control gyno, do I keep taking it for the remainder of the cycle? or can I stop once the gyno symptoms stop?
*I apologize for rushing to get to 50 posts. But I promise you your input will not go to waste. This is something I take very seriously and plan far ahead with as much knowledge as possible before doing this. I think everyone should.*
I thank you for your time and input


Seems like your on the right path, But Drop the nolva, and get you exemestane and run it at 12.5 mg EOD this will eliminate the risks of possible gyno, and reduce bloat, I would run your proposed bulk cycle like this
The Bulk Cycle
week 1-5 40mg Dbol
week 1-12 600mg Test E
week 1-11 400mg Deca
week 6-12 50mg Proviron
week 1-14 500iu's HCG
week 1-17 exemestane 12.5mg EOD
week 16-17 100mg Clomid
week 18-19 50mg Clomid
Profit!
" In my opinion your success is not determined by the scale or the mirror, but by what adversity did you have to overcome to achieve what you have thus far. "
- OSL
bump for more advise, hopefully


I second oldschool's advice. Looks like you've done your homework. The cycle is fine. It it stalls look into your nutrition first before you think more/differe3nt drugs. You have plenty, if not more than enough, AAS in there to push you forward.
See Glycoman's articles at: http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f497/

Your diet looks 110%... literally

Bump for Mr.saturatedfat, just because I'm so impressed on how he layer out his threa


Old school covered it pretty well. I'd raise the HCG to 500x2 per week and run the test for two weeks longer than the deca and run the A/I though the whole cycle and PCT.