What Does Everyone Think Of Proviron?

MIGHTY DOG · 11-27-2002, 01:07 PM

I am a little interested in proviron. I want feedback from experienced users. What can you all tell me about it? Is it worth the money? Does it help with sex drive? Etc?

bigss75 · 11-27-2002, 10:33 PM

What is proviron is it some sex pill or something like horny goat weed

gopro · 11-30-2002, 01:04 PM

Proviron is an anabolic steroid, not a supplement. It is used to keep estrogen levels at bay when using certain other steroids. It is also used as a strong androgen to help harden muscles when very near competition.

By itself it does very little to promote muscle or strength gain. Its best use is in combination with other steroids.

Martin Smolinsk · 12-01-2002, 10:43 AM

Sorry gopro, but poviron is not a steroid, its an antiestrogen. It is usually used in combination with roids, for greater muscle hardness, to keep your muscle gains after the cycle, because it can rise your test level quite quickly, good for libido stimulation and used as a prevention or treatment of gynecomastia. That s it.

By the way, how much does it cost in the US?

Martin

**Prince** · 12-01-2002, 11:12 AM

http://www.deca-sustanon.com/proviron.htm

**dg806** · 12-02-2002, 08:22 AM

It's illegal isn't it?? Then it's a steriod!

**Prince** · 12-02-2002, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
It's illegal isn't it?? Then it's a steriod!

not a valid argument!

If it's illegal, it is a steroid?

**dg806** · 12-02-2002, 02:30 PM

According to the steriod act law of 1990(?) it is.

crackerjack414 · 12-02-2002, 03:52 PM

lol my thyroid meds are illeagel without a rx. Then they must be steroids as well. almost all AAS are used in medicine for the treatment of wasting dieses. I believe proviron is used when tren or deca is used to promote recovery.

**dg806** · 12-02-2002, 03:58 PM

That is not what I meant. It is listed specificly as an AS!

**Prince** · 12-02-2002, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
According to the steriod act law of 1990(?) it is.

that was not my point.

you said:

"It's illegal isn't it?? Then it's a steriod!"

so, that would mean that anything illegal is a steroid.

Robboe · 12-02-2002, 04:14 PM

Cholesterol is a steroid.

**Prince** · 12-02-2002, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Cholesterol is a steroid.

it can't be, it's not illegal!

**dg806** · 12-02-2002, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
it can't be, it's not illegal!

Damnit! I meant it was classified as a steriod and it is illegal! Better? I agree not the best choice of words.

gopro · 12-02-2002, 08:13 PM

PROVIRON IS A STEROID. IT IS NOT A "CLASSIC" ANTI-ESTROGEN AS MARTIN S HAS SAID! IT IS A STEROID THAT WILL NOT AROMATIZE AT ANY DOSE, IS PURELY AN ANDROGEN WITH BASICALLY NO ANABOLIC ACTIVITY, AND IS USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER STEROIDS FOR ITS UNIQUE ANTI-ESTROGEN QUALITIES.

IT IS AS ILLEGAL AS ANY OTHER STEROID AND IS FOUND QUITE READILY ON THE BLACK MARKET. IT IS RATHER CHEAP AS IT IS FALLING OUT OF FAVOR DUE TO MUCH BETTER ANTI-E's.

**dg806** · 12-02-2002, 08:23 PM

Ty GP!

**Prince** · 12-02-2002, 09:48 PM

"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medicine to ease or cure disturbances eaused by a deficiency of male sex hormones."
http://www.deca-sustanon.com/proviron.htm

gopro · 12-03-2002, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medicine to ease or cure disturbances eaused by a deficiency of male sex hormones."
http://www.deca-sustanon.com/proviron.htm

True Prince. And some more info in case anyone cares...Proviron is the brand name for the drug mesterolone or 1methyl-dihydrotestosterone. It works as an anit-estrogen by simply slowing the conversion of other steroids into E. This is unlike Nolvadex, which blocks the ability of E to bind to receptors, but does not prevent aromatization. The dose for Proviron is usually around 25 - 100 mg per day. This drug is also sometimes used during the final stages of contest prep, as its high androgenic nature will compliment the use of more anabolic compounds often used before a show. Androgens at this time will harden and add a more "dense" look to muscle.

cornfed · 12-03-2002, 01:08 PM

In practical usage. Proviron is best used to combat aromatose. It's function is not that of a typical anti-E, it does not block free-E (like nolva) or the receptors (arimidex/femara), it prevents the aromatose process itsself, which thereby allows the excess test to remain excess test.

Great product for heavy cycles or those involving suspension, but it is illegal w/o a script, so this really belongs in the juice room.

cornfed · 12-03-2002, 01:11 PM

sorry for the repeat, GP. Also, the doses are usually ~100 from what I've seen

PB&J · 12-03-2002, 06:00 PM

Thanks for posting the article Prince, this was my favorite part:

The most common side effect of Proviron-or in this case, secondary symptom- is in part a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection.

All I can say is "Honey, Bedroom, NOW!!!

gopro · 12-04-2002, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cornfed
sorry for the repeat, GP. Also, the doses are usually ~100 from what I've seen

No problem...as for doses...most men go in the 100mg per day range...women, in the 25-50mg range.

gopro · 12-04-2002, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PB&J
Thanks for posting the article Prince, this was my favorite part:

The most common side effect of Proviron-or in this case, secondary symptom- is in part a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection.

All I can say is "Honey, Bedroom, NOW!!!

Well, I'm overstimulated as it is...and as far as erections, NO PROBLEM THERE!

cornfed · 12-04-2002, 10:26 AM

Yeah...yeah... so where's Kuso?

Martin Smolinsk · 12-04-2002, 01:59 PM

Gopro, well, you know a lot about it, but I still cant understand why you think it is a steroid. Adrogens are androgens, not steroids, even if it can give you little gains.

gopro · 12-04-2002, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Smolinsk
Gopro, well, you know a lot about it, but I still cant understand why you think it is a steroid. Adrogens are androgens, not steroids, even if it can give you little gains.

It is still classified as a steroid. Cholesterol is a steroid as is prednisone. Halotestin is a steroid that is just an androgen as well, and will produce little to no size gains. Some steroids are largely anabolic, some are largely androgenic, and some are a combination...and as with prednisone, some are catabolic. However, all are still steroids.

crackerjack414 · 12-04-2002, 10:08 PM

I dont believe any steroid is purly andrognic or anabolic but a varying degrea of the two

gopro · 12-05-2002, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crackerjack414
I dont believe any steroid is purly andrognic or anabolic but a varying degrea of the two

You are correct!!...but as I mentioned, some lean largely one way or the other, and some are almost an even split. For example...Anavar is almost purely anabolic...Halotestin is almost purely androgenic...Dianabol is a reasonable combo.

Martin Smolinsk · 12-05-2002, 03:55 PM

Well I see what you mean, but Ive never heard that provirion would be a steroid, mybe you have a different drugs classification in US. :-)

gopro · 12-05-2002, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Smolinsk
Well I see what you mean, but Ive never heard that provirion would be a steroid, mybe you have a different drugs classification in US. :-)

I have read several books on the subject as well as have written an article or two about roids. Generally it is accepted that Proviron is classified as a steroid. It is a dihydrotestosterone derivitive. Anyway, no big deal really, huh?

11-27-2002, 01:07 PM	#1
MIGHTY DOG Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA Posts: 14	What Does Everyone Think Of Proviron? I am a little interested in proviron. I want feedback from experienced users. What can you all tell me about it? Is it worth the money? Does it help with sex drive? Etc?

11-30-2002, 01:04 PM	#3
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Proviron is an anabolic steroid, not a supplement. It is used to keep estrogen levels at bay when using certain other steroids. It is also used as a strong androgen to help harden muscles when very near competition. By itself it does very little to promote muscle or strength gain. Its best use is in combination with other steroids. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-01-2002, 11:12 AM	#5
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,404 Photos: 356	http://www.deca-sustanon.com/proviron.htm BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

12-02-2002, 08:22 AM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	It's illegal isn't it?? Then it's a steriod! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

12-02-2002, 02:30 PM	#8
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	According to the steriod act law of 1990(?) it is. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

11-27-2002, 10:33 PM	#2
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,125	What is proviron is it some sex pill or something like horny goat weed

12-01-2002, 10:43 AM	#4
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	Sorry gopro, but poviron is not a steroid, its an antiestrogen. It is usually used in combination with roids, for greater muscle hardness, to keep your muscle gains after the cycle, because it can rise your test level quite quickly, good for libido stimulation and used as a prevention or treatment of gynecomastia. That s it. By the way, how much does it cost in the US? Martin

12-02-2002, 03:52 PM	#9
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	lol my thyroid meds are illeagel without a rx. Then they must be steroids as well. almost all AAS are used in medicine for the treatment of wasting dieses. I believe proviron is used when tren or deca is used to promote recovery.

12-02-2002, 03:58 PM	#10
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	That is not what I meant. It is listed specificly as an AS! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

12-02-2002, 04:14 PM	#12
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Cholesterol is a steroid. Being held down by The Man

12-02-2002, 08:13 PM	#15
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	PROVIRON IS A STEROID. IT IS NOT A "CLASSIC" ANTI-ESTROGEN AS MARTIN S HAS SAID! IT IS A STEROID THAT WILL NOT AROMATIZE AT ANY DOSE, IS PURELY AN ANDROGEN WITH BASICALLY NO ANABOLIC ACTIVITY, AND IS USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER STEROIDS FOR ITS UNIQUE ANTI-ESTROGEN QUALITIES. IT IS AS ILLEGAL AS ANY OTHER STEROID AND IS FOUND QUITE READILY ON THE BLACK MARKET. IT IS RATHER CHEAP AS IT IS FALLING OUT OF FAVOR DUE TO MUCH BETTER ANTI-E's. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-02-2002, 08:23 PM	#16
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Ty GP! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

12-02-2002, 09:48 PM	#17
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,404 Photos: 356	"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medicine to ease or cure disturbances eaused by a deficiency of male sex hormones." http://www.deca-sustanon.com/proviron.htm BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

12-03-2002, 01:08 PM	#19
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	In practical usage. Proviron is best used to combat aromatose. It's function is not that of a typical anti-E, it does not block free-E (like nolva) or the receptors (arimidex/femara), it prevents the aromatose process itsself, which thereby allows the excess test to remain excess test. Great product for heavy cycles or those involving suspension, but it is illegal w/o a script, so this really belongs in the juice room. - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too." "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP---

12-03-2002, 01:11 PM	#20
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	sorry for the repeat, GP. Also, the doses are usually ~100 from what I've seen - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too." "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP---

12-03-2002, 06:00 PM	#21
PB&J Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Over there! Posts: 361	Thanks for posting the article Prince, this was my favorite part: The most common side effect of Proviron-or in this case, secondary symptom- is in part a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection. All I can say is "Honey, Bedroom, NOW!!!

12-04-2002, 10:26 AM	#24
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	Yeah...yeah... so where's Kuso? - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too." "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP---

12-04-2002, 01:59 PM	#25
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	Gopro, well, you know a lot about it, but I still cant understand why you think it is a steroid. Adrogens are androgens, not steroids, even if it can give you little gains.

12-04-2002, 10:08 PM	#27
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	I dont believe any steroid is purly andrognic or anabolic but a varying degrea of the two

12-05-2002, 03:55 PM	#29
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	Well I see what you mean, but Ive never heard that provirion would be a steroid, mybe you have a different drugs classification in US. :-)

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