Thread: kickstarting a test/deca cycle with sust/npp?

I'd just do a large frontload of the Test E... I'm not a huge fan of the ester cocktails such as Sustanon.

NPP to kickstart Deca sounds good.

Originally Posted by Ravager

I'd just do a large frontload of the Test E... I'm not a huge fan of the ester cocktails such as Sustanon.

NPP to kickstart Deca sounds good.

Yeah that might be the best bet. At what dosage would I run the npp and for how long leading up to the deca though? Or would a frontload of deca have the same effect?

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Yeah that might be the best bet. At what dosage would I run the npp and for how long leading up to the deca though? Or would a frontload of deca have the same effect?

NPP sounds like a great idea, needs to be pinned EOD, so I'd start at 50mg EOD and adjust from there. Maybe for 2-3 weeks (perhaps just finish off the vial).

I don't like pinning EOD, so My test/deca I did a 6ml frontload, 4 x 250test Cyp, and 2 x 250 Nandralone Deca.

I used Methadrol Extreme orals as my kicker.

I'm a week into it and I can see the results already on my body. Test, Methadrol, or both not sure. I kind of like the thought of the deca really kicking in when my orals stop.

Originally Posted by Ravager

NPP sounds like a great idea, needs to be pinned EOD, so I'd start at 50mg EOD and adjust from there. Maybe for 2-3 weeks (perhaps just finish off the vial).

I don't like pinning EOD, so My test/deca I did a 6ml frontload, 4 x 250test Cyp, and 2 x 250 Nandralone Deca.

I used Methadrol Extreme orals as my kicker.

I'm a week into it and I can see the results already on my body. Test, Methadrol, or both not sure. I kind of like the thought of the deca really kicking in when my orals stop.

Yeah I don't really like the idea of pinning EOD either lol, but I also kinda want to avoid orals.

So Just frontload the test, start the deca as normal, and run a vial of NPP at 50mg EOD, doesn't sound too bad. I'd just do a frontload of each but I've heard people say they don't really notice much difference with frontloading, not sure why though?

I wonder if the dbol you ran before was real? Dbol was amazing for me. You can front load but you still wont feel it right away, I would though.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

I wonder if the dbol you ran before was real? Dbol was amazing for me. You can front load but you still wont feel it right away, I would though.

Yeah pretty sure it was real, I've heard from others that used it as well and concensus is that it was g2g. I definitely made some gains from it, especially strength wise, and I felt great after each dose for the first two weeks or so. Then I started feeling tired and lethargic for the last two weeks , when I stopped taking it I felt great again. I've heard others say that they feel the same after dbol.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Yeah pretty sure it was real, I've heard from others that used it as well and concensus is that it was g2g. I definitely made some gains from it, especially strength wise, and I felt great after each dose for the first two weeks or so. Then I started feeling tired and lethargic for the last two weeks , when I stopped taking it I felt great again. I've heard others say that they feel the same after dbol.

What I meant was do we know if was actual dbol. Could have been something else. Just a thought. The dbol I used to run wasnt ugl.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

What I meant was do we know if was actual dbol. Could have been something else. Just a thought. The dbol I used to run wasnt ugl.

Yeah I suppose that's possible, might have to try a new brand next time lol.

Still I'd rather use injectables than orals, the convenience just isn't worth it to me and I'm kinda starting to enjoy pinning :P

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Yeah I suppose that's possible, might have to try a new brand next time lol.

Still I'd rather use injectables than orals, the convenience just isn't worth it to me and I'm kinda starting to enjoy pinning :P

much easier on the liver too.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

much easier on the liver too.

for sure

Maybe I have more patience. Just do the test/deca and in three weeks you'll start feeling jacked. Even if you front load it will take at least 10 days to start feeling anything. So, what are you gaining? 10 days of semi-jacked feeling. Seems stupid to me. I don't know why everyone claims that deca and test take a long time to kick in. Most of the guys I know start feeling it in 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Maybe I have more patience. Just do the test/deca and in three weeks you'll start feeling jacked. Even if you front load it will take at least 10 days to start feeling anything. So, what are you gaining? 10 days of semi-jacked feeling. Seems stupid to me. I don't know why everyone claims that deca and test take a long time to kick in. Most of the guys I know start feeling it in 2 weeks.

Yeah with test I can "feel" it the first week, and notice gains within 2 weeks but I was under the impression that deca was one of the longest to kick in. Maybe I am just being impatient lol. What would you reccomend for a starting deca dosage though? I'm seeing anywhere between 200-400.

Theory is your body can only grow for X amount of weeks before myotosin kicks in and INHIBITS any more growth. So in theory by frontloading you can grow larger before your body catches on to the rapid pattern and reverses things to ensure survival.

I think frontloading just helps you achieve your desired mg/wk average that much quicker. Its kind of exciting kicking off a cycle with a big frontload lol.