My Summer Blast/Bulk

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 02:38 AM

Ok, my contract in Iraq is ending so i'm headed back home and will start my bulk June 15th. this will be my 2nd cycle. 1st was Test/decca with good results considering the heat and army food. I have been on TRT for the last year at 300mg/wk of test C and 150 mg/wk of Deca, so no need for PCT as I will drop back and cruise at end of cycle.

My current Stats are:
55 years old
6' - 204 lbs @ 11% Bf using the 3-pinch caliper---not the best, but will be used throughout cycle
3 years hard and consistant training / 15 total
Goals--- add 20 to 25 lbs of mostly lean bulk and keep Bf around 12-13%

Bulk Cycle:

Week 1 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 100mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 100mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 8 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 12 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 13 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 14 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 15 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 16 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED

Week 1 - 16 .5mg-1mg Arimidex ED
Week 1 - 16 500 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW
Prami on hand
Letro on hand
Again, no PCT as i will Cruise on 300mg/EW of Test C

Diet will be dialed in now that i will be at home with 3500 cal starting out moving up to 4500 per day and maintaining 350 to 400g of protein per day

please provide feed back and if this needs tweaking in anyway.
Heavy,TGB, GMO- chime in guys

**JCBourne** · 05-31-2011, 04:10 AM

Looks pretty good man, I say go for it. You haven't been running deca for a year though have you?

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

Looks pretty good man, I say go for it. You haven't been running deca for a year though have you?

yeah, at that low dose to help with joint pain. had blood work done when i was home a few weeks ago and the only marker out of whack was my RBC count so i donated blood to get it in range. i have ran out of deca as of yesterday and will not get any more sent over to me since i'm going home next week so will not start it up again until i start the cycle

Thanks for the reply

**OldSchoolLifter** · 05-31-2011, 06:13 AM

I would consider using arimidex during pct, and running Exemestane @ 12.5 eod during cycle.

Also maybe lengthen the var to at least 4-6 weeks

other than that cycle look great bro!

**GMO** · 05-31-2011, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by GMC1

Ok, my contract in Iraq is ending so i'm headed back home and will start my bulk June 15th. this will be my 2nd cycle. 1st was Test/decca with good results considering the heat and army food. I have been on TRT for the last year at 300mg/wk of test C and 150 mg/wk of Deca, so no need for PCT as I will drop back and cruise at end of cycle.

My current Stats are:
55 years old
6' - 204 lbs @ 11% Bf using the 3-pinch caliper---not the best, but will be used throughout cycle
3 years hard and consistant training / 15 total
Goals--- add 20 to 25 lbs of mostly lean bulk and keep Bf around 12-13%

Bulk Cycle:

Week 1 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 100mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 100mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 8 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 675mg Deca EW
Week 12 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 13 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 14 1225mg Sust EW/ 750mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 15 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 16 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED

Week 1 - 16 .5mg-1mg Arimidex ED
Week 1 - 16 500 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW
Prami on hand
Letro on hand
Again, no PCT as i will Cruise on 300mg/EW of Test C

Diet will be dialed in now that i will be at home with 3500 cal starting out moving up to 4500 per day and maintaining 350 to 400g of protein per day

please provide feed back and if this needs tweaking in anyway.
Heavy,TGB, GMO- chime in guys

Looks good bro...well done.

That's normally a lot of compounds for a second cycle, but given that you have been cruising on test and deca, I think it is appropriate.

The only recommendation I would make is to run that Var for 8 weeks. Trust me, you'll love the results from a longer run.

Other than that, it is a great layout. Best of luck to you brother!

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 06:50 AM

So..start the var at week 9....sir, i will do that.
Thanks guys

This is gonna be a fun 16 weeks

**ANIMALHAUS** · 05-31-2011, 08:01 AM

Quite the cycle you have planned out!

When do you plan on starting?

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

Quite the cycle you have planned out!

When do you plan on starting?

I get home on the 9th and plan on take 3 to 4 months off, so i plan on starting on the 13th.
all i have to do is eat, lift, rest, and service the wife...and repeat...

**XYZ** · 05-31-2011, 10:45 AM

Why even use the hcg if you're on TRT with deca?

I would also be running the pramipexole from the start.

**chronicelite** · 05-31-2011, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by CT

I would also be running the pramipexole from the start.

Prami... my arch nemesis.... almost caused me to kill myself on more than 1 occasion..

WAR DOSTINEX !!!!!!!!!

**Buzzard** · 05-31-2011, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by CT

Why even use the hcg if you're on TRT with deca?

I would also be running the pramipexole from the start.

Agreed... Run the Prami or Caber from the get go. Why wait until something flares up to start?

CT... Why not the hCG?

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by CT

Why even use the hcg if you're on TRT with deca?

I would also be running the pramipexole from the start.

Thanks CT, why would i not use HCG while on TRT, please explain

I thought about running Prami from the start, but to date, haven't had any issues with prolactin. however, with the higher doses of Deca and the length of cycle, it make sense to be precautionary

**heavyiron** · 05-31-2011, 09:57 PM

Two things strike me right away. Thats a lot of deca and anadrol. Have you run these doses before? At your age you need to think heart health and watch BP. Not sure I can sign off on this one brother. How are your lipids and BP?

Maybe 400mg on the Deca and 50mg on the Anadrol but again, you need to think heart health. Your cycle looks like edema waiting to happen...

**GMC1** · 05-31-2011, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Two things strike me right away. Thats a lot of deca and anadrol. Have you run these doses before? At your age you need to think heart health and watch BP. Not sure I can sign off on this one brother. How are your lipids and BP?

Maybe 400mg on the Deca and 50mg on the Anadrol but again, you need to think heart health. Your cycle looks like edema waiting to happen...

Thanks Heavy,

I never ran Anadrol before, ran Deca at 400mg with good results and no sides along with test E @ 600 mg.

Had blood work first of May, Lipids were all on target and BP was/is 128/75.

So I keep the Anadrol at 50mg for 4 weeks and keep the Deca at 400 thru week 14?

I will have blood work done at week 11 and again at completion

This is the reason i posted this up, to get honest appraisals from the experts on this forum.

**Pump4EVER** · 05-31-2011, 10:45 PM

Big cycle there! Best of luck brother

**GMC1** · 06-01-2011, 04:09 AM

After considering the suggestions given, I have revised this cycle to take into consideration my age. I don't feel or look like i'm 55 and damn sure don't act like it, but Heavy, you make a good point. Even though i haven't had any issue to this point, no need in going too extreme.

I will run Anadrol at 50mg ED for 4 weeks and Deca at 500mg EW for 14 weeks (Decca is 250mg/ml) and extend Anavar to 8 weeks begining in week 9.

Again PCT will not be needed as i will just cruise on low test

Week 1 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 8 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 12 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 13 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 14 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 15 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 16 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED

Week 1 - 16 .5mg-1mg Arimidex ED
Week 1 - 16 500 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW
Prami on hand
Letro on hand

**XYZ** · 06-01-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Agreed... Run the Prami or Caber from the get go. Why wait until something flares up to start?

CT... Why not the hCG?

It's just me, personally hcg while on trt (to me anyhow) is just for aesthetics, nothing more. It serves absolutely no function if you're shut down.

I guess if you want to spend the money to have bigger balls, knock yourself out but after a while you might not even respond.

**GMO** · 06-01-2011, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by GMC1

Thanks Heavy,

I never ran Anadrol before, ran Deca at 400mg with good results and no sides along with test E @ 600 mg.

Had blood work first of May, Lipids were all on target and BP was/is 128/75.

So I keep the Anadrol at 50mg for 4 weeks and keep the Deca at 400 thru week 14?

I will have blood work done at week 11 and again at completion

This is the reason i posted this up, to get honest appraisals from the experts on this forum.

If you've never ran Anadrol before, then 50mg will most likely be enough. I've personally never ran more than 75mg ED...

Blood work is ALWAYS a good idea while on cycle. I try to get it done monthly if possible.

**TGB1987** · 06-01-2011, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by CT

It's just me, personally hcg while on trt (to me anyhow) is just for aesthetics, nothing more. It serves absolutely no function if you're shut down.

I guess if you want to spend the money to have bigger balls, knock yourself out but after a while you might not even respond.

This is true. I also agree iwth what Heavyiron said about the lipids. Anavar at the end is going to be crushing on the lipids as well. I like the setup you have for the most part but I think it may be a little more than what is needed. I think it would be good to drop the dose of anadrol as you did. Run the prami or caber at a low dose from the beginning. I prefer aromasin for on cycle AI because Aromasin is not as hard on the lipids comparted to letro or adex. Also Aromasin will keep estro in check with a dose of 12.5mgs eod for most. Aromasin will raise IGF1. Aromasin even seems to harden me up. Your cycle is setup pretty good overall just make sure you are not jumping into things too fast. Your doses seem to be higher then what is normal for someone of your experience. Nearly all orals are going to be hard on the lipids. I would recommend that you keep moderation in mind and your healty as Heavy stated. You can still gain a lot of muscle with more moderate doses. By the way thank you for fighting for our country. Much respect!

**TGB1987** · 06-01-2011, 08:27 AM

I am glad to see that you do stay up with the blood work that is so important. Even I sometimes am not as good about this as I should be. Very important. If you do decide to run this cycle with the higher doses at least you will know if your levels begin to get out of whack and you can lower the dose or stop the cycle before you start to get into more serious issues.

**heavyiron** · 06-01-2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by GMC1

After considering the suggestions given, I have revised this cycle to take into consideration my age. I don't feel or look like i'm 55 and damn sure don't act like it, but Heavy, you make a good point. Even though i haven't had any issue to this point, no need in going too extreme.

I will run Anadrol at 50mg ED for 4 weeks and Deca at 500mg EW for 14 weeks (Decca is 250mg/ml) and extend Anavar to 8 weeks begining in week 9.

Again PCT will not be needed as i will just cruise on low test

Week 1 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 8 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW / 70 mg Var ED
Week 12 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 13 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 14 1225mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 15 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED
Week 16 1225mg Sust EW/ 70mg Var ED

Week 1 - 16 .5mg-1mg Arimidex ED
Week 1 - 16 500 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW
Prami on hand
Letro on hand

Looks better but I personally would run the Deca at 250mg the first 4 weeks.

**GMC1** · 06-01-2011, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Looks better but I personally would run the Deca at 250mg the first 4 weeks.

Is this because of the Anadrol?

**GMC1** · 06-05-2011, 07:51 AM

I have decided to redo my summer blast/bulk and take the advice of the elders here...LOL.

Week 1 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 700mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 8 700mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 12 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 13 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 14 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 15 1000mg Sust EW
Week 16 1000mg Sust EW

Week 1 - 16 12.5mg Aromisin EOD
Week1 - 16 .5 prami E3D
Week 1 - 16 250 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW

this should be a safer cycle that still results in great gains along with my dialed in diet and training.

Special thanks to Heavy, TGB, GMO, and CT

P.S. Received clearence to depart IRAQ and I'll be in Sweet Home Alabama on Thursday

**heavyiron** · 06-05-2011, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by GMC1

Is this because of the Anadrol?

Thats part of it. Dropping a strong oral is a good time to up dose on injects so gains keep coming. Also, I love low dose deca up front in a course because my joints feel great on it without the extreme water retention higher doses give.

**M-Rods** · 06-05-2011, 10:32 AM

Would using a statin like Crestor be a good idea to keep lipids in check?

**heavyiron** · 06-05-2011, 12:39 PM

I would go with OTC's first like fish oil, plant sterols and fiber.

**XYZ** · 06-06-2011, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by M-Rods

Would using a statin like Crestor be a good idea to keep lipids in check?

Like Heavy said fish oil, I would also throw in slo release niacin and policosanol.

**TGB1987** · 06-06-2011, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by GMC1

I have decided to redo my summer blast/bulk and take the advice of the elders here...LOL.

Week 1 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 2 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50 mg Anadrol ED
Week 3 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 4 500mg Sust EW / 250mg Deca EW/ 50mg Anadrol ED
Week 5 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 6 700mg Sust EW / 500mg Deca EW
Week 7 700mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 8 700mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 9 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 10 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 11 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 12 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 13 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 14 1000mg Sust EW/ 500mg Deca EW
Week 15 1000mg Sust EW
Week 16 1000mg Sust EW

Week 1 - 16 12.5mg Aromisin EOD
Week1 - 16 .5 prami E3D
Week 1 - 16 250 IU HCG x2 EW
Sustanon pinned EOD / Deca 2x EW

this should be a safer cycle that still results in great gains along with my dialed in diet and training.

Special thanks to Heavy, TGB, GMO, and CT

P.S. Received clearence to depart IRAQ and I'll be in Sweet Home Alabama on Thursday

This looks much better IMO. If I was to use Sust. I would probably use similar doses. I think you will be much better off. A great support supplement while on cycle would be Advanced Cycle Support from IronMagLabs and Fish oil at 4-10grams a day, you may want to check into those to help support your body. Congrats on coming home that is great! Keep us informed of your results.

**keith1569** · 06-06-2011, 08:54 AM

liking the revised cycle man..as others have said try the fishy oil and if you go with niacin watch out for the flushing, also at doses for it to help you it is stressful on your liver but is very effective..so running that with an oral may not be the best..btw non-flushing niacin does not help..
def keep us updated on your cycle to.

**BigBird** · 06-06-2011, 11:21 AM

Don't forget to take before and after pics. Just don't let your identity known to your Company Commander.

I cycled Anadrol only once - many moons ago - at 50mg ED for 4 weeks. It was the old blister packs made by "Syntex?" "Syntax?" and let me tell you - WOW - I grew Arnold-like pecs nearly overnight. I would've flat out been afraid to take 51mg as opposed to the 50mg but we all react differently to different things. That was back in the mid 1990's. Nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 100mg Anadrol to give me same effect as 50mg. Either way, I like you cycle layout now that you modified it to incorporate a little more conservatism. I expect you will be a beast at cycle's conclusion. Good luck. Keep us posted.

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