Thread: **would appreciate your advice **

Are you just going to take the orals or are you taking Test with it? Also I would not recommend taking both orals together because they both are liver toxic and I think you would get better results cycling them. Take alot of milk thisel for liver support. As far as PCT goes I would suggest you get some Tamoxifen(nolva) before you start anything just in case gyno issues pop up during or after cycle. Then for your regular PCT take Clomid. My buddy's do clomid and nolva at the same time I find that over kill but thats me. Also DO NOT start your cycle until you have your PCT!!!!!! Must be ready. Good luck

Also I seen you were doing 20mgs a day before of Dbol. Ya on a dose like that gains will be ok. Try 30mgs with that you will see nice results at a still safe dosing level.

Originally Posted by Oitepal

Are you just going to take the orals or are you taking Test with it? Also I would not recommend taking both orals together because they both are liver toxic and I think you would get better results cycling them. Take alot of milk thisel for liver support. As far as PCT goes I would suggest you get some Tamoxifen(nolva) before you start anything just in case gyno issues pop up during or after cycle. Then for your regular PCT take Clomid. My buddy's do clomid and nolva at the same time I find that over kill but thats me. Also DO NOT start your cycle until you have your PCT!!!!!! Must be ready. Good luck

how would you recommend the way i cycle them if i shouldnt be talking both together.

Well Some of the guys I work out with will do Dbol through weeks 1-4 and then Winny through weeks 6-8 but they are also using test through out the cycle as well.

get some test bro. it will be well worth it.

Weeks 1-12: Test E - 500 mg's/week
Weeks 1-4: Dbol - 30 mg's/day
Weeks 10-14: winny - 30 mg's/day

I'd try to get some more winny and run it for 6 weeks at 50 mg/day to finish

PCT should be nolva or clomid + aromasin

Originally Posted by Diesel618

get some test bro. it will be well worth it.

Weeks 1-12: Test E - 500 mg's/week
Weeks 1-4: Dbol - 30 mg's/day
Weeks 10-14: winny - 30 mg's/day

I'd try to get some more winny and run it for 6 weeks at 50 mg/day to finish

PCT should be nolva or clomid + aromasin

^^^^ this

Do that and you will see some really nice gains.

Your to young to be taking anything.

I know a guy who is 6 foot 200lbs with about the same BF% and he looks like he was just released from a prison camp.
Cycle this for about 3-4 more years.

what I agree with brundel, you need to eat more.

Originally Posted by TWOtime

just wanted to hear some suggestions on how i should go upon this, i would appreciate all feed back. also any suggestions with pct, and cycle support.
thank you

As far as liver support, I have been taking Need2Guard for a very long time now. I can tell a big difference in how my immune system recovers from a cycle with the product versus other cycle supports. Overall, I feel healthier.

Originally Posted by OutWhey

As far as liver support, I have been taking Need2Guard for a very long time now. I can tell a big difference in how my immune system recovers from a cycle with the product versus other cycle supports. Overall, I feel healthier.

Yep... A strong cycle support supp is probably a good idea, particularly with an oral only cycle.