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    Alrite people was just wondering how many of you lot use things like vallium and jellies and stuff to help sleep, my mate has a load becuase he gets really bad night sweats on tren.. so im jus wondering if any of you lot take them for sleep aid? because all tht over the counter stuff is shit! and dont want to start smoking aload of weed at night to sleep! i know there very addicitve and should not be used for long periods of time just wondering what youse think of them... only people who use or have used them reply i cant be arsed with little smart arses who have never touched a drug in life preaching about how all drugs are bad...let me know guys
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    I will sometimes take some ketotifen. That stuff makes me drowsy as hell.

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    nothing otc works for me. valium worked for me but took a lil longer to kick in. ended up coming across some ativan. it works fast and doesnt leave you sluggish in the morning. i can take 1/4 of these 1mgs and they do the trick. valium has a much longer half life so some ppl get sluggish the next day.

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    yes, I use Valium and Xanax occasionally for sleep.

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    ZMA has been shown to help with sleep issues.. umm you could try a natty GH booster or a peptide.. the increase in GH seems to help with Sleep.. there are also different supps that for sleep... such as nocturnabol.. Phenibut is noted to help with focus some use it to help sleep

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    On occassion I will use the help of Xanax such as 0.5mg. If I take a higher dose than this, I will have trouble waking up and feeling fresh. 0.5mg about 30 minutes before bedtime as long as I have a good 7 hours to sleep.

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    I've had sleep issues for years now. The only thing that really helps me is a couple of hits of weed. I can't take valium or xanax.

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    benzos def are helpful to sleep when on tren..dont take it longer than 4 weeks straight .you may become dependent on it

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    you can try OTC anti histamines.. melatonin.. GABA.. or script for ambien

    i wouldn't fuck with benzos.. tolerance and withdrawl aint worth ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimal View Post
    you can try OTC anti histamines.. melatonin.. GABA.. or script for ambien

    i wouldn't fuck with benzos.. tolerance and withdrawl aint worth ti

    ambien is still in the benzo class in terms of how it affects your brain..so if you dont want to do benzo's dont choose ambien then either

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1569 View Post
    ambien is still in the benzo class in terms of how it affects your brain..so if you dont want to do benzo's dont choose ambien then either
    Actually ambien is called a nonbenzodiazepines hypnotic.. it binds to same receptor as benzos but mechanism of action is different. The tolerance and withdrawal is not on the same level as real benzos.

    I've been taking anti-histamines, melatonin, herbals, ambiens and so on.. for years. If you alternate around and don't take same thing for more than 2-3 times a week, you will be okay.

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    ya you are right..i meant that it binds to the same receptors.


    ya i take seroquel most nights when i cant sleep..like 25mg and ambien other times..

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    I seen Valium on one of the sponsors website, now that I am having trouble sleep I cant seem to find it, can anyone PM if you find it on someones site.

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    2mg klonopin + 10mg melatonin + a few whiskey drinks usually does it.
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    Ya I was taking 3mg a day of klonopin for anxiety. About 6 months. Tapered off and haven't had any issues since. Slept well to heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by klc9100 View Post
    2mg klonopin + 10mg melatonin + a few whiskey drinks usually does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    yes, I use Valium and Xanax occasionally for sleep.
    x 2 alot i love em with percs mixed lol but i do use them they work well

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_walker View Post
    I've had sleep issues for years now. The only thing that really helps me is a couple of hits of weed. I can't take valium or xanax.

    why cant u smoke weed? ive just had 2 joints and 6 jellies there like valluims tamazipan ect.. feel drowsy i best go sleep lol.......


    i ment why cant u take vallium ect... damn im feelin high
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    makes me want to puke? dunno why, but last time I took it I was sick all fucking day... I'm about to light my fire and head to bed. I worked my ass off in the gym today, no better way to relax IMO.

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    Said it before and ill say it again stay away from benzos..the withdraw from them makes opiate withdraw look like a vacation..but if you must take low doses for a short amount of time.. I used to take 2 1mg blue xanex every night for a year or so when I tried to stop I thought the withdraw was gonna fin kill me...ended up tapering off for over a month..but yeah if u can't sleep they will do the trick
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdarx7 View Post
    Said it before and ill say it again stay away from benzos..the withdraw from them makes opiate withdraw look like a vacation..but if you must take low doses for a short amount of time.. I used to take 2 1mg blue xanex every night for a year or so when I tried to stop I thought the withdraw was gonna fin kill me...ended up tapering off for over a month..but yeah if u can't sleep they will do the trick
    I'm on this side of the fence. Been there done that and there are better options for sleep.
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    Yeah I get the chills just talkin bout them...but some people say in moderation they are fine..I'm pretty sure the word moderation and me don't get along
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    1 mg of xanex, magnesium citrate and a shot or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrG89 View Post
    1 mg of xanex, magnesium citrate and a shot or two
    mag citrate? for sleep or for shitting?

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    I wouldn't fuck with benzos. Withdraw is about 7-10 days and my nerves were shit. Look in to hydroxyzine its a antihistimine sedative if you can find a doc to prescribe it for you.

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    I occasionally use Valium or xanax to help sleep or melatonin. All depends on how I feel.





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    I forgot to mention 25mg of Benadryl (anti-histamine) will put me down for the count. Lights out. Good stinking night.

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    I have a perma-script for valium which is rare for where I live. Been taking it ED for nearly 3 years but never before I train. $5 for 50 tabs.

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