I am just finishing up a cycle that's pretty standard.
Test Prop weeks 1-8 150mg EOD
Winstrol weeks 4-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid 3 weeks
6'3
210lbs.
12%
I'm thinking to move on to my next cycle to keep strength and built gains should I use Anavar after PCT. I realize Anavar does do damage as well so I feel I should even use Clomid once again even after. Does this sound any way not retarded?
And I also know that this question is number one on every forum website in the nation. But I'm thinking of straight shreading: Anavar only cycle
Not trying for major gains but a nice lean look.
Weeks 1-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid
Give me some love or just a lot of hate
No but for real what do you guys think? for both inbetween or single anavar cycle.
if you use anavar after pct you're just going to be shutting yourself down again, if you don't mind the risk of permanent hpta damage then sure go for it
as far as a var only cycle? I don't know why you'd want to do that when you can get more benefit out of some test with a lower dose of var stacked on top for less money
I am just finishing up a cycle that's pretty standard.
Test Prop weeks 1-8 150mg EOD
Winstrol weeks 4-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid 3 weeks
6'3
210lbs.
12%
I'm thinking to move on to my next cycle to keep strength and built gains should I use Anavar after PCT. I realize Anavar does do damage as well so I feel I should even use Clomid once again even after. Does this sound any way not retarded?
And I also know that this question is number one on every forum website in the nation. But I'm thinking of straight shreading: Anavar only cycle
Not trying for major gains but a nice lean look.
Weeks 1-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid
Give me some love or just a lot of hate
No but for real what do you guys think? for both inbetween or single anavar cycle.
BOOOYAAA
I think if your going to bridge between cycles then there is no point in running a pct until after the second cycle.
with regards to PCTing, cycling then PCTing, cycling and then one more PCT is just too much HPTA interference if you ask me it is far more risky to do that then to just do a simple bridge.
I've run anavar only cycles at dosages of up to 250mgs ed and found for strength their excellent. but if you want to lean out the test is required.
Not to mention anavar is very expensive for what you get. So you'd be better of bridging with low dose test e/c @300mgs ew for 8 weeks and then do a higher dose test prop, anavar cycle. You need aromasin in there though.
I think if your going to bridge between cycles then there is no point in running a pct until after the second cycle.
with regards to PCTing, cycling then PCTing, cycling and then one more PCT is just too much HPTA interference if you ask me it is far more risky to do that then to just do a simple bridge.
I've run anavar only cycles at dosages of up to 250mgs ed and found for strength their excellent. but if you want to lean out the test is required.
Not to mention anavar is very expensive for what you get. So you'd be better of bridging with low dose test e/c @300mgs ew for 8 weeks and then do a higher dose test prop, anavar cycle. You need aromasin in there though.
Yep pretty much agree. I wouldn't bridge personally but I'm still young yet lol, the longer I can hold back the inevitable the better. And yes I think you'd definitely be better off running a prop/var cycle than var alone. You'll get more out of it and it'll be wayy cheaper than running a full cycle of high dose var
I'm currently bridging w 250 test e and 20 mg var/day. Not saying it's a healthy decision but it's what I'm doing. Gonna do it for 8 weeks then run another cycle.
Yeah, basically. We just call it "bridging" to make ourselves feel better. Kinda like when a guy that doesn't need trt decides to blast and cruise to keep gains.
Yeah, basically. We just call it "bridging" to make ourselves feel better. Kinda like when a guy that doesn't need trt decides to blast and cruise to keep gains.
Can you please elaborate on this analogy. I don't see how bridging is the same as blasting and cruising?
It's correct term is "cruising." Either you're 1) blasting, 2) cruising, 3) PCT'ing or 4) off-completely.
I get you BigBird, it seems that it is commonly referred to as bridging as the person intends to come off whereas blasting and cruising is indefinite
Originally Posted by exphysiologist88
And we call it bridging, when it's essentially cycling but w lower doses.
What do we class a cycling dosage however? if a person was to administer a normal physiological range dosage of test do we still refer to that as cycling?
Originally Posted by exphysiologist88
I'm referring to the terminology used. Blasting and cruising is essentially self prescribed TRT.
I am just finishing up a cycle that's pretty standard.
Test Prop weeks 1-8 150mg EOD
Winstrol weeks 4-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid 3 weeks
6'3
210lbs.
12%
I'm thinking to move on to my next cycle to keep strength and built gains should I use Anavar after PCT. I realize Anavar does do damage as well so I feel I should even use Clomid once again even after. Does this sound any way not retarded?
And I also know that this question is number one on every forum website in the nation. But I'm thinking of straight shreading: Anavar only cycle
Not trying for major gains but a nice lean look.
Weeks 1-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid
Give me some love or just a lot of hate
No but for real what do you guys think? for both inbetween or single anavar cycle.
BOOOYAAA
If you're going to bridge, just run a low dose of Test. Spare your liver.
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. I'll cut the bridge out. Standard PCT and then begin a var only cycle with correct dosages and in a timely fashion and see what happens.
I am just finishing up a cycle that's pretty standard.
Test Prop weeks 1-8 150mg EOD
Winstrol weeks 4-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid 3 weeks
6'3
210lbs.
12%
I'm thinking to move on to my next cycle to keep strength and built gains should I use Anavar after PCT. I realize Anavar does do damage as well so I feel I should even use Clomid once again even after. Does this sound any way not retarded?
And I also know that this question is number one on every forum website in the nation. But I'm thinking of straight shreading: Anavar only cycle
Not trying for major gains but a nice lean look.
Weeks 1-8 50mg ED
PCT Clomid
Give me some love or just a lot of hate
No but for real what do you guys think? for both inbetween or single anavar cycle.
BOOOYAAA
its retarted for many resones im not even going to other to list...
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. I'll cut the bridge out. Standard PCT and then begin a var only cycle with correct dosages and in a timely fashion and see what happens.
BOOM SON
i rec test witht he var when you use it.
also i hope ou knwo it fucked with your blood (HDL/LDL) and is liver toxic AND will shut down your natural test producttion (why i say use it with test)
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. I'll cut the bridge out. Standard PCT and then begin a var only cycle with correct dosages and in a timely fashion and see what happens.
BOOM SON
Why var only though? To get anything worthwhile out of var by itself you're gonna have to run a pretty high dosage, and it's going to cost you a pretty penny. Lower the dose and stack some test with it, it'll be cheaper and give you better results
Why var only though? To get anything worthwhile out of var by itself you're gonna have to run a pretty high dosage, and it's going to cost you a pretty penny. Lower the dose and stack some test with it, it'll be cheaper and give you better results
^x2 unless you can buy in bulk its gonna cost you an arm and a leg for var.
If i run Var solo i don't go below 100mg ed more often i use 200mg ed!
How are strength gains on var? I'm thinking of adding it to my upcoming test/deca cycle. I'd love to use dbol but it didn't agree with me for some reason, so I'm thinking var at like 60mg for 6 weeks or so?
How are strength gains on var? I'm thinking of adding it to my upcoming test/deca cycle. I'd love to use dbol but it didn't agree with me for some reason, so I'm thinking var at like 60mg for 6 weeks or so?
strength gains on var are pretty crazy even at 60mg ed, i think i gained in about 4 weeks 30lbs per hand on my dumbbell shoulder press and about 90lbs on my incline bench and squat!
6 weeks is a good length beyond that i found the effects to diminish.
just watch out for appetite suppression by the 4th week it was really hitting me hard!
strength gains on var are pretty crazy even at 60mg ed, i think i gained in about 4 weeks 30lbs per hand on my dumbbell shoulder press and about 90lbs on my incline bench and squat!
6 weeks is a good length beyond that i found the effects to diminish.
just watch out for appetite suppression by the 4th week it was really hitting me hard!
Awesome man, I may give that a run then. I never considered running var because it just seemed like too little for the money, but I've found a good source that carries it cheap. It's sort of a tossup right now between halo or var, and I'm a bit worried about the toxicity of halo.
Would you reccomend kicking off a cycle with var or finishing with it? I'm gonna be running test/deca so I'm thinking I'll be a bit bloated and probably with more bf than I'd like by the end. I was thinking about running the var for the last 4 weeks and then the two weeks leading up to pct, eating a little less calories to try and lean out and tighten things up a bit. Would that work or will it be pretty much the same no matter where I throw it into the cycle?
Awesome man, I may give that a run then. I never considered running var because it just seemed like too little for the money, but I've found a good source that carries it cheap. It's sort of a tossup right now between halo or var, and I'm a bit worried about the toxicity of halo.
Would you reccomend kicking off a cycle with var or finishing with it? I'm gonna be running test/deca so I'm thinking I'll be a bit bloated and probably with more bf than I'd like by the end. I was thinking about running the var for the last 4 weeks and then the two weeks leading up to pct, eating a little less calories to try and lean out and tighten things up a bit. Would that work or will it be pretty much the same no matter where I throw it into the cycle?
yeah halo is too toxic for my liking and even more expensive than var!
I'd personally finish it, in fact i'm finishing my current blast with var and so far so good.
I think thats the better option and you can still kick start with a wetter oral if you wanted. and the var suppression would not be so much of an issue if your trying to tighten up anyway.
you'll get better strength with more cals but I don't think the difference will be that great.
yeah halo is too toxic for my liking and even more expensive than var!
I'd personally finish it, in fact i'm finishing my current blast with var and so far so good.
I think thats the better option and you can still kick start with a wetter oral if you wanted. and the var suppression would not be so much of an issue if your trying to tighten up anyway.
you'll get better strength with more cals but I don't think the difference will be that great.
Halo is expensive for sure, but the place I'm looking at makes their own tabs and they're very affordable
I like that idea though, I might grab some dbol to start off with and finish with the var. Or heavyiron was suggesting using just 10mg halo preworkout gives a nice boost, ahh soo many choices lol