Thread: How many run HCG in PCT?

Not a good idea. You need a SERM to recover, and HCG will not help you recover during PCT. Try Clomid and a good A/I.

Originally Posted by mdr

not a good idea. You need a serm to recover, and hcg will not help you recover during pct. Try clomid and a good a/i.

+1

Gotcha. Ya i'm doing clomid 50/25/25/25 and aromasin 12.5 e3d . Think it matters I end on Thurs (HCG), which is 2 weeks before PCT?

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

Gotcha. Ya i'm doing clomid 50/25/25/25 and aromasin 12.5 e3d . Think it matters I end on Thurs (HCG), which is 2 weeks before PCT?

I think you'll be fine. It takes longer than that for your nuts to decrease in size all that much, and your test dosage is going to be slowly declining over those two weeks. You'll be far better off than you would had you not run the hcg at all IMO

I no like the small nuts, however I do like donkey hanging nuts with huge loads of cum for the wifey.

You should be taking the aromasin ED.

- SERMs are the only way to when it comes to PCT - AIs have nothing to do with HPTA recovery.
- HCG during PCT it simply cancels it because it extends the shutdown of the HPTA - it has nothing to do with the restart of gonadotropin production whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Yaz!

- SERMs are the only way to when it comes to PCT - AIs have nothing to do with HPTA recovery.
- HCG during PCT it simply cancels it because it extends the shutdown of the HPTA - it has nothing to do with the restart of gonadotropin production whatsoever.

True, but an A/I is still a good thing during PCT, for much the same reasons that you take it during your cycle.

Originally Posted by MDR

True, but an A/I is still a good thing during PCT, for much the same reasons that you take it during your cycle.

It does nothing for the HPTA and there's no necessity to control E2 during PCT - there's no reason for PCT either.

Originally Posted by yaz!

it does nothing for the hpta and there's no necessity to control e2 during pct - there's no reason for pct either.

wtf?

There is as long as you are not interested in blasting and cruising.

Originally Posted by M4A3

wtf?

There is as long as you are not interested in blasting and cruising.

What i meant was there's no reason for an AI during PCT - sorry for not clearing that up.

Originally Posted by Yaz!

What i meant was there's no reason for an AI during PCT - sorry for not clearing that up.

So you're saying when you come off and your E2 is sky high and your endogenous test is shut down there's no need for an AI to cover your ass?

Do some more research

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

So you're saying when you come off and your E2 is sky high and your endogenous test is shut down there's no need for an AI to cover your ass?

Do some more research

- How is sky high if the aromatizable compounds aren't on your system anymore ?
- You said it yourself, how is it even possible for sky high E2 if your natural T is off and you administer no aromatizable compounds or even any at that will directly inhibit with the ER ?
- And let's say hypothetically/magically there is high E2 on your body, do you even remember what's the medical use of SERMs, outside BB ?
- Unless you do PCT while the drugs are active on your system, you have no need for an AI - please take a guess as to who needs more research done.

Originally Posted by Yaz!

It does nothing for the HPTA and there's no necessity to control E2 during PCT - there's no reason for PCT either.

Estrogen issues do not disappear the with the last injection. I feel it is best to run during PCT because Estrogen problems from Testosterone and HCG supplementation can linger after the last dosage, even after the ester clears. To say that an A/I has no place in PCT is not taking this factor into consideration.

Originally Posted by MDR

Estrogen issues do not disappear the with the last injection. I feel it is best to run during PCT because Estrogen problems from Testosterone and HCG supplementation can linger after the last dosage, even after the ester clears. To say that an A/I has no place in PCT is not taking this factor into consideration.

Of course obviously, that's why it is recommended when longer esters are being administered (Enanthate, Cypionate etc) the 11-14 days from last injection to the start of PCT, in that period and AI should be used also.

Originally Posted by Yaz!

Of course obviously, that's why it is recommended when longer esters are being administered (Enanthate, Cypionate etc) the 11-14 days from last injection to the start of PCT, in that period and AI should be used also.

As I already stated, Estrogen protection is needed beyond the time it takes for the ester to clear. An A/I is still needed during PCT for this reason. If you don't want to, don't use it.

What about estro rebound post cycle? Thats a great reason for an ai.