Thread: Testosterone Suspension by heavyiron

I love reading your posts, nice one again, thank you for all your time Heavy! You know I been using AP's Suspension and I am loving it!

What size pin do you have to use with that brand of suspension.

I believe Prince offered to buy vials for me and have them sent my way.

I do believe I am about to ask for a pay raise. Seems everyone else gets all the cool stuff and I just get what is left over.

Great article..great pic.

Great post Heavy, always look forward to reading them!!

Nice gears . . , very informative

I am guessing from the pics the Asia Pharm Test Suspension is water-based. Is the oil based version a little less painful? Would there be any pharmacokinetic differences?

I used Aquabolic.
Only had one vial so can't give a give proper review.

I banged it in with a 27g.
Needs to be done quick.
Someone suggested mixing it with B12 or some other water based substance.

Not that much pain tbh.
A slight bit of discomfort nothing you can't handle.

Thats for the info on the half life most think it had to be administered ED

Originally Posted by blazeftp

I used Aquabolic.
Only had one vial so can't give a give proper review.

I banged it in with a 27g.
Needs to be done quick.
Someone suggested mixing it with B12 or some other water based substance.

Not that much pain tbh.
A slight bit of discomfort nothing you can't handle.

Thats for the info on the half life most think it had to be administered ED

27g is good.

I always draw with a very large bore pin like 18g just to make sure i'm not just getting water then inject with whatever, 23/25/27/29

I use 25g and 23g depending where I'm pinning, I've had both clot on me, you have to be quick so there will be no clotting!

Good read heavy....love the pic...

mmmmm a very sexy post here.Test Supen and anadrol= hearts

Another great thread with a ton of info. Used Test Susp with my first cycle years ago and have stayed away from it b/c of the pain. I may have to try it again now that I'm a little more seasoned!!

Doesn't susp have a high estrogen conversion rate? what are you taking during the cycle? If someone took 25mg ED would they see results? I have been looking for all this info and cant find much.

Any proposed cycles with Test suspension?
Would it be ok to add this to a cycle of 500mg Test E, just to try it out for a few times?

Originally Posted by bettendorf35

Doesn't susp have a high estrogen conversion rate? what are you taking during the cycle? If someone took 25mg ED would they see results? I have been looking for all this info and cant find much.

Suspension is moderately estrogenic and that effect will be dose dependant. The more you administer the more likely aromatase acitvity will occur. I would use Nolvadex to lower estrogenic side effects or an aromatase inhibitor.

25mg daily is a pretty low dose. I would personally use a higher dose.

100mg every other day would be a good starting dose for newer users. More advanced users could easily double that dose for very rapid and pronounced LBM gains.

suspension is excellent, bump cycles on suspension are commonly used to gain some lbm very quickly, or as a kick start to a long estered cycle.

thank you for your devotion to informing everyone here at ironmag!!!

great info!!!

i assume that chart is for horse. i know for sure steriods has different effect on equine verse humans, most animals take their bodies longer to process the synthetic testosterone. i have a buddy that races 1/4 horses. i personally take 75mg suspension twice a day.

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

i assume that chart is for horse. i know for sure steriods has different effect on equine verse humans, most animals take their bodies longer to process the synthetic testosterone. i have a buddy that races 1/4 horses. i personally take 75mg suspension twice a day.

The testosterone crystals take time to be absorbed by the body no matter if its an animal or human but if you have any scientific evidence feel free to post a study to support your opinion.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Testosterone Suspension by heavyiron

Testosterone is the undisputed king of steroids mainly because it elicits rapid mass and strength gains while maintaining libido, a sense of well being and energy. It’s not uncommon for a first time user to gain 20lbs of LBM in a standard testosterone cycle.

Suspensions have tiny particles that are visible with the naked eye. If left on the shelf for a few days many times the particles will sink to the bottom leaving the clear solvents and water on the top. Depending on the manufacturer, particle sizes vary meaning some Suspension preparations can clog a 22 gauge needle. Ultra micronized Suspension can pass through a 25 gauge needle making injections more comfortable. Shake the suspension preparation vigorously before injecting.

Testosterone suspension is the most potent form of testosterone because it does not possess an ester. Esters are calculated into the steroid weight therefore esterfied steroids are not a true mg for mg free hormone. 100mg of suspension is 100mg of free hormone! Enanthate in a solution is only 72mg of free hormone per 100mg. You can see that Suspension is the true king steroid. However because there is no ester many users will inject suspension everyday or even multiple times per day. This is usually reason enough for most people to reject using suspension but it gets worse. Usually suspension is quite painful as well. Combine every day injections with significant pain and most users simply pass on trying suspension at all. Some new science now demonstrates that everyday and even every other day injections are not necessary with Testosterone Suspension.

What is the real half life of Testosterone Suspension?

There is no classic half life of aqueous Testosterone Suspension due to the nature of the various suspension particle sizes and the non existence of an ester. In other words we don’t see the same types of decay rates with blood androgen levels in non esterfied preparations that are seen in esterfied preparations. However in March of 2011 there was a pharmacokinetics study done in horses that reported a median terminal half-life of 39 hours with aqueous Testosterone Suspension.(1) The disposition of testosterone from this formulation was characterized by an initial, rapid absorption phase followed by a much more variable secondary absorption phase. There were at least two plasma testosterone concentration peaks. The first peak is almost immediate and the second peak is a whopping 7 days later on average according to the chart in the full study. The study indicates that the initial peak is from the Testosterone formulation solution and the following peak(s) from the solid material in the suspension.



Basically the solution almost immediately hits the blood stream when injected and then a few days later the solid particles are slowly absorbed by the body causing other peaks in testosterone blood androgen levels.

So how often should you administer Suspension?

Based on this science, injecting Suspension every other day or even every 3 days will maintain high blood androgen levels. The king of steroids has had a time release delay built into it all along and we have the data to prove it.

Reference

An interlaboratory study of the pharmacokinetics of testosterone following intramuscular administration to Thoroughbred horses.

This graph is a real mind fuck I had to break out my measuring tape to see where the half life is and if it peaks at 2 6/8" on my screen then 1 3/8" is 25 days later! WTF! Can someone please find a graph on human trials jesus. Thanks Heavy but this whole 39 hours to 25 day half life is driving me nuts. No wonder people get so many sides. After 25 days of pinning 100mg ED they're blood levels must be insane!

How long is Suspension good for after the expiry date? I have a bottle of Aquabolic that expired in 10/2010.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Suspension is moderately estrogenic and that effect will be dose dependant. The more you administer the more likely aromatase acitvity will occur. I would use Nolvadex to lower estrogenic side effects or an aromatase inhibitor.

25mg daily is a pretty low dose. I would personally use a higher dose.

100mg every other day would be a good starting dose for newer users. More advanced users could easily double that dose for very rapid and pronounced LBM gains.

Heavy, you got any comments on oil vs water based suspension?

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Heavy, you got any comments on oil vs water based suspension?

A true suspension will have solid particles that take time to absorb hence the subsequent peaks in blood androgen levels however a solution will have a different absorbtion rate.

Originally Posted by Justinbro

This graph is a real mind fuck I had to break out my measuring tape to see where the half life is and if it peaks at 2 6/8" on my screen then 1 3/8" is 25 days later! WTF! Can someone please find a graph on human trials jesus. Thanks Heavy but this whole 39 hours to 25 day half life is driving me nuts. No wonder people get so many sides. After 25 days of pinning 100mg ED they're blood levels must be insane!

There really isn't a classic half life with suspensions so there is no way to really measure it in a classic sense however the scientists were satisfied with 39 hours.

Originally Posted by OfficerFarva

How long is Suspension good for after the expiry date? I have a bottle of Aquabolic that expired in 10/2010.

Probably quite a while if stored in a dark cool place.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Heavy, you got any comments on oil vs water based suspension?

oil doesn't cripple you

how you like this amps guys?
you got stronger in gym?