Thread: Super DMZ update 11 days ON. Couldn't handle sides.

have to REALLY up the carbs(healthy,complex carbs of course) on DMZ.

it is a glycogen loader. I know till I upped the carbs I felt s lightly lethargic.

Once I upped the carbs,I felt great! and the gains went through the roof.

if you think the gains are great n ow,wait till you up the carbs,however above all l isten to your body!

super DMZ was probably not the best first choice to run. something like H-drol, P-mag, Epistane may have been a better choice for a first timer.

everyone reacts differently.

you may want to try Cyanostane Rx, its similar to Super-DMZ Rx except instead of Superdrol it has Cyanostane but still has the Dimethazine.

or Deca-Drol Max.

Im on day 9 of DMZ today. And yeah I am a cashier and just standing there, the back pumps are crazy. I started at 159, and I'm up to around 179-182 depending on water weight. You gotta eat pasta, pasta and more pasta.

Currently, running an SD clone myself: Myopharma's Superbolin. I'm not sure if you were taking the new DMZ, which also includes dymethazine (essentially a variant of a superdrol molecule), but if you were, you were essentially getting 20mg of a very potent precursor per pill. For a first time user that can be a tremendous amount, especially if you were taking two pills a day. If you were taking two pills, try taking only one. If you were only taking one try a new PH, or see if you can find a brand that makes only 10mg pills. I get great results from SD clones as well, which is why I try and stick with them. Fortunately, I'm not prone to any sides and have yet to really experience any from any PH's or AAS I've ever run. I've run a cycle of IL's Super DMZ and it did wonders for me in the past. The only reason I'm on Myopharma's clone is because the health store up the street carries it and I didn't want to wait on shipping. Good luck, and don't get discouraged. With gains that pronounced I would say just cut the dosage in half and see how that works for you.

Also, sorry for the last post if it is hard to follow. I'm writing these posts via cell phone, so sentence fluency is a bit difficult.

Originally Posted by lcht2

super DMZ was probably not the best first choice to run. something like H-drol, P-mag, Epistane may have been a better choice for a first timer.

Why?

Originally Posted by Oitepal

Hey guys I Was going to make a Log after I finished my cycle but i have stopped early due to the anxiety I was getting while on it. I should say I am a hyper senstive user. basically anything I use I will get awesome results fast though the side effects are just as bad if prone to them. I took a chance with super DMZ knowing I had panic attack issues in the past that I had at bay. Well on about day 6 or so they became more pronounced everyday from then on. My gains were amazing. Way fuller strength was way up. On day 1 I weighed 198.6. I float from that to around 199.4 on avg sometimes ill hit 197. On day 11 I was at 207.2 I was shocked. Both times I weighed in the morning in my boxers. I was half tempted to keep going because of such gains.

Ok fun part : I do landscaping so this compound during this time of the year for me was not a wise choice in the first place. I drink around 2 gallons a day 1 at work and forced one at home. I also took a ass load of milk thistle and fish oil. I was on Iron mags on cycle support. I also am still taking that. I have been taking 40mg a day of Nolva and 3 tabs of E-control rx for the last 4 days for pct. Which is w/e my doctor seems to think i would be just fine on e-control since i was cut off so early.

SIDE EFFECTS: Ok so first off this is my first Steroid/PH w/e. All I have ever taken before was protein and creatine. I researched for a good 3 months before I started this all. Had everything ready to go and SO i was like what the hell. I experienced Oily skin. Mild acne hardly anything to mention which is weird because I figured I was more prone to it. Was not moody at all though I was pretty tired alot. Which I read SD can do. Biggest complaints are the Anxiety which was crazy and the ankle/back pumps I would get at work were pretty nasty. Once I got those I was like the hell with it ill take my gains and walk. I am satisfied to were it has taken me in 11 days. Also the ankle back pains subsided once I stopped. My weight as of today is 207.4 so haven't gained much but haven't lost any either. To be honest my diet was pretty shitty. Had a rough two weeks. Alot of Carbs,protein and calories. ( not all good sources)

Anyways Wish I could had finished But you all know how it goes. Thanks for reading.

How bad was your anxiety, and have you had anxiety problems before?

Were you able to keep any of your gains?

Originally Posted by bluecountry

Why?

Because Superdrol and Dimethazine is a harsh combo for someone that has never run an oral before. Superdrol being the harshest.
Like he said start off with H-drol or Havoc/Epistane for a first run oral only cycle. H-drol being the better choice imo.

Originally Posted by superdmzpl0x

Im on day 9 of DMZ today. And yeah I am a cashier and just standing there, the back pumps are crazy. I started at 159, and I'm up to around 179-182 depending on water weight. You gotta eat pasta, pasta and more pasta.

You created another thread a few weeks ago saying you were on day 20 of Super DMZ? How can you be on day 9 two weeks later?

Originally Posted by Dyers Eve

Because Superdrol and Dimethazine is a harsh combo for someone that has never run an oral before. Superdrol being the harshest.
Like he said start off with H-drol or Havoc/Epistane for a first run oral only cycle. H-drol being the better choice imo.

Are those legal as DMZ is?

Originally Posted by bluecountry

Are those legal as DMZ is?

Yes, both are still legal to purchase in the USA.

Originally Posted by superdmzpl0x

Im on day 9 of DMZ today. And yeah I am a cashier and just standing there, the back pumps are crazy. I started at 159, and I'm up to around 179-182 depending on water weight. You gotta eat pasta, pasta and more pasta.

159 to 179 or 182 in 9 days? Thats 22 lbs bro, come one now

Originally Posted by Livebig14

You created another thread a few weeks ago saying you were on day 20 of Super DMZ? How can you be on day 9 two weeks later?

Check your dates again. He started on Aug 1st, posted in this thread Aug. 9, and made his other thread on the 20th.

Originally Posted by troubador

Check your dates again. He started on Aug 1st, posted in this thread Aug. 9, and made his other thread on the 20th.

oh shit sorry man

Originally Posted by Dyers Eve

Yes, both are still legal to purchase in the USA.

Awesome.

Hey blue I am prone to anxiety too. I even get anxiety sometimes when people explain or go into detail about their sides i feel as if i have them too. I am on my 3 rd PH/DS run I had anxiety issues with all of them while on cycle, the one thing that helps me i found that i was not getting enough water. I am logging Ultradrol(check it out)now and i was getting in a bout a gallon day per Ultradrol and have to upped to damn near two gallons a day . Also some other things to consider is food intake, i noticed if i go past 3 -4 hours without eating i start getting anxiety to, so eat up more food is better than less while taking PH/DS.The last thing I have notice is caffeine intake, I am a hugh stim junkie,and the more caffeine i take while on PH/DS more my anxiety kicks in so I have to cut down the coffee in the am and tea Ect...You know your body more than anybody, so listen to it, the down side is people with anxiety can some times have an attack and make something out of nothing that is jus the natural of anxiety..Good luck my man learn your body type and how it reacts ..

Just a suggestion, maybe get away from the superdrol and other designers and try a moderate dose of testosterone ester. That's what your body is evolved to use and probably will give you very little anxiety if you use a moderate dose like 200-300 mg/week. At 300 mg per week you will be roughly at 2.5 times the top of normal range which most of us can handle and thrive on with a little aromatase inhibitor mixed in like exemastane at 10 mg/day.

Originally Posted by gamma

Hey blue I am prone to anxiety too. I even get anxiety sometimes when people explain or go into detail about their sides i feel as if i have them too. I am on my 3 rd PH/DS run I had anxiety issues with all of them while on cycle, the one thing that helps me i found that i was not getting enough water. I am logging Ultradrol(check it out)now and i was getting in a bout a gallon day per Ultradrol and have to upped to damn near two gallons a day . Also some other things to consider is food intake, i noticed if i go past 3 -4 hours without eating i start getting anxiety to, so eat up more food is better than less while taking PH/DS.The last thing I have notice is caffeine intake, I am a hugh stim junkie,and the more caffeine i take while on PH/DS more my anxiety kicks in so I have to cut down the coffee in the am and tea Ect...You know your body more than anybody, so listen to it, the down side is people with anxiety can some times have an attack and make something out of nothing that is jus the natural of anxiety..Good luck my man learn your body type and how it reacts ..

i got the name wrong.. Oitepal

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Just a suggestion, maybe get away from the superdrol and other designers and try a moderate dose of testosterone ester. That's what your body is evolved to use and probably will give you very little anxiety if you use a moderate dose like 200-300 mg/week. At 300 mg per week you will be roughly at 2.5 times the top of normal range which most of us can handle and thrive on with a little aromatase inhibitor mixed in like exemastane at 10 mg/day.

This ^ or if you must have an oral use the IronMagLabs Cyanostane or Halo Extreme or Decadrol Max. THese are milder yet very effective products.

first cycle you should have not taken a stacked PH product, should have taken a single product ill and at the threshhold amount, not max amount and you could ramp the dose up mid cycle to more if you were doing well and body was getting used to the original amount.

Try one of many products out there, I et you would have better results... if you get bad sides, you might not be able to stack, too many things going on inside, I dont know.

Sorry to hear that brother...I'm starting my last week of DMZ and have thoroughly enjoyed this cycle!

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Just a suggestion, maybe get away from the superdrol and other designers and try a moderate dose of testosterone ester. That's what your body is evolved to use and probably will give you very little anxiety if you use a moderate dose like 200-300 mg/week. At 300 mg per week you will be roughly at 2.5 times the top of normal range which most of us can handle and thrive on with a little aromatase inhibitor mixed in like exemastane at 10 mg/day.

Will consider. I want an AAS that will produce as minimal as possible side effects.
I am prone to stomach, sleep, and anxiety problems.
HEnce my hesistation.

I would say you shouldn't take the nolva during your dmz cycle, after would have been more appropriate. the e-control should be enough while on cycle. personally I would go with 250-300mg/ test per week along with the dmz.

Hey guys just a update did a cycle of cyanostane and didn't get much anxiety though I did notice some hairloss on it..bummer but gains where very nice.

Originally Posted by Oitepal

Hey guys I Was going to make a Log after I finished my cycle but i have stopped early due to the anxiety I was getting while on it. I should say I am a hyper senstive user. basically anything I use I will get awesome results fast though the side effects are just as bad if prone to them. I took a chance with super DMZ knowing I had panic attack issues in the past that I had at bay. Well on about day 6 or so they became more pronounced everyday from then on. My gains were amazing. Way fuller strength was way up. On day 1 I weighed 198.6. I float from that to around 199.4 on avg sometimes ill hit 197. On day 11 I was at 207.2 I was shocked. Both times I weighed in the morning in my boxers. I was half tempted to keep going because of such gains.

Ok fun part : I do landscaping so this compound during this time of the year for me was not a wise choice in the first place. I drink around 2 gallons a day 1 at work and forced one at home. I also took a ass load of milk thistle and fish oil. I was on Iron mags on cycle support. I also am still taking that. I have been taking 40mg a day of Nolva and 3 tabs of E-control rx for the last 4 days for pct. Which is w/e my doctor seems to think i would be just fine on e-control since i was cut off so early.

SIDE EFFECTS: Ok so first off this is my first Steroid/PH w/e. All I have ever taken before was protein and creatine. I researched for a good 3 months before I started this all. Had everything ready to go and SO i was like what the hell. I experienced Oily skin. Mild acne hardly anything to mention which is weird because I figured I was more prone to it. Was not moody at all though I was pretty tired alot. Which I read SD can do. Biggest complaints are the Anxiety which was crazy and the ankle/back pumps I would get at work were pretty nasty. Once I got those I was like the hell with it ill take my gains and walk. I am satisfied to were it has taken me in 11 days. Also the ankle back pains subsided once I stopped. My weight as of today is 207.4 so haven't gained much but haven't lost any either. To be honest my diet was pretty shitty. Had a rough two weeks. Alot of Carbs,protein and calories. ( not all good sources)

Anyways Wish I could had finished But you all know how it goes. Thanks for reading.

I'm somewhat in the same boat. I was diagnosed with anxiety/major depresssive disorders, they didn't manifest at all doing the brief days on DMZ. I was taking only two capsules on training days, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. The muscular cramping was unexpected and disappointing. I would now have to insure a good ectrolyte balance, have plenty of magnesium, calcium, potassium, and other minerals available.
I use taurine and potassium for a little blood pressure control.
I didn't expect the acne nor the very oily skin. It has been 12 days since my last dose of DMZ and I still feel its effect on me. I've never had the bloat, the oily skin, the acne, never had to drink two gallons of water while I was using my usual stuff(Sustanon, omnas, Test E, etc) I'm going to start up again in ten days, providing that my estrogen level isn't off the chart. (Must wait for blood test results) Oh BTW, while I was on the DMZ for those few days, my weight with from 219 lb. to 238 lb. and I felt like "The Hulk" every training day! And I've never had compliments and people looking at me, "Wondering, Is he using?" SO WHAT! LOL I'm going to take one capsule every two days and check that effect out.

Lol

I have swollen parotid glands under my ears and swollen lymph glands of my legs by the groin area! Now I believe my entire lymphatic system is fucked! Goddamn, less than fifteen days and this shit has to happen to me!
I didn't over do anything. I've taken 2 caps. for each training day, total 10 caps. no more. I hope I can flush this shit out!

SuperDMZ ain't for me. I'm trashing the rest of it!