Donating blood while on cycle

**XYZ** · 06-27-2011, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Sooooo true. The meat and milk in America is full or hormones, especially estrogens. Same with soy. Don't forget the lining in cans called BPA! Full of xenoestrogens that act on your receptor sites.

These are things people ingest daily. I just have a hard time believing it's such a big deal when they don't even ask you about it.

The last time I went on they asked me about my sexual history and if I had been using cocaine or heroin, specifically. They didn't ask about "drugs", they asked specifically about these two drugs. They also asked if I had been sharing needles.

They asked nothing about steroids, or medications that I could be on.

Think about this, what if I am somebody who takes massive amounts of oxycodone every single day, LEGALLY. Are you telling me it's unsafe to give this blood to a dying person?

If you think it's only here..........you're nuts.

**chronicelite** · 06-27-2011, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by CT

I do know for a fact that here in the US the Red Cross specifically asks about the use of AAS.

Oh ok, I was not aware of this. Here in Canada they do not.
If you answer YES, I guess you are disqualified from donating?

**Digitalash** · 06-27-2011, 02:03 PM

Everything I've heard says they ask about AAS use because they're worried about diseases you may be carrying. The question used to be do you use any intravenous drugs but that doesn't technically include AAS. IMO the dosages in a pint of blood wouldn't be harmful to anyone, especially since it would only be what percentage of the active chemical that had been released from the ester and was still circulating.

**chronicelite** · 06-27-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Everything I've heard says they ask about AAS use because they're worried about diseases you may be carrying. The question used to be do you use any intravenous drugs but that doesn't technically include AAS. IMO the dosages in a pint of blood wouldn't be harmful to anyone, especially since it would only be what percentage of the active chemical that had been released from the ester and was still circulating.

Which then gets filtered by the liver anyways... in which most of the compound is destroyed.

**XYZ** · 06-27-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Oh ok, I was not aware of this. Here in Canada they do not.
If you answer YES, I guess you are disqualified from donating?

Good question, I would think so, but honestly....I don't know.

**ted8541** · 06-27-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Hi, so I heard it's good to donate blood while on cycle to offsets excess RBC's.

How long after donating should I wait before I return to the gym ?

Here is my question. Supposedly a higher RBC count is positive because of rapid muscle reconstitution, the pump and the increase amount of oxygen to the muscles. So, if a positive of taking EQ (for example) is that it dramatically increases your RBC count, then why is it recommended to give blood to reduce them? That doesn't make sense to me.

**Toddler** · 06-27-2011, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by ted8541

Here is my question. Supposedly a higher RBC count is positive because of rapid muscle reconstitution, the pump and the increase amount of oxygen to the muscles. So, if a positive of taking EQ (for example) is that it dramatically increases your RBC count, then why is it recommended to give blood to reduce them? That doesn't make sense to me.

Too high of RBC can cause blood clotting, fatigue, dizziness and other symptoms. While bodybuilders want their RBC high to improve recovery and gains, too high becomes a health hazard. Too much of anything can be deadly, but that doesn't mean that more than normal is bad. What your count should be at depends on your health training and goals.

I don't do blood tests as often as most here do so I rarely know what I am at, but I donate as often as possible simply for the health benefits. Plus its all good karma in the end, a win win if you ask me

**ted8541** · 06-28-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Toddler

Too high of RBC can cause blood clotting, fatigue, dizziness and other symptoms. While bodybuilders want their RBC high to improve recovery and gains, too high becomes a health hazard. Too much of anything can be deadly, but that doesn't mean that more than normal is bad. What your count should be at depends on your health training and goals.

I don't do blood tests as often as most here do so I rarely know what I am at, but I donate as often as possible simply for the health benefits. Plus its all good karma in the end, a win win if you ask me

Good points. I researched a bit more today and it appears two very serious issues with high RBC's are stroke and heart failure.

**lee111s** · 06-28-2011, 04:19 PM

Aside from all the negatives to the other person think about the gear you'd be wasting by having the blood removed from your body!

**heavylifting** · 06-28-2011, 04:51 PM

ya i would wait untill your done with pct then donate as much as you want.

if its any chance to hurt some one else that is in need of your blood its not worth the risk. like imagine if your son needed blood and took some ones blood who fucked him up even worse. or if your wife, mom, dad any of your loved ones. i dont give blood when im on drugs. thats just me personally.

but i dont give blood often anyways.

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