I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I think the best thing you can do is eat well (like you said), train hard, travel as you have planned.
Also save up the cash and when you are no longer traveling purchase test and start with that alone.

I plan to do my first injections this year but as of now I have to stick with orals due to the vast amounts of traveling I am doing and cannot bring syringes, vials, etc. This will be my last oral only cycle. The cycle I am preparing is either going to be methadrol extreme, or a stack of d-zine and ep stane. I plan on doing a very lean bulk possibly more of a recomp. I plan on keeping my calories high but very clean. What do you guys recommend I am willing to purchase actual aas's but its a price issue and have had no experience with actual gear.

I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I think the best thing you can do is eat well (like you said), train hard, travel as you have planned.
Also save up the cash and when you are no longer traveling purchase test and start with that alone.
Last edited by KUVinny; 06-24-2011 at 12:55 PM.


If you can get real Turanabol, run that at 50mg per day for 8 weeks and you will see some nice gains. Its not cheap though, and oral only cycles are harsh on the live and you could pack much more size and muscle on with injectables. I would just wait until you can run some test e or test c and run dbol or tbol for a kickstart.
Some people seem to keep decent gains from dbol only cycle... but some people say it's not worth it. I guess no way to know unless you try it for yourself.


Turanabol is pretty much dbol without the bloat. 10-15 pound gains are common with turanabol. Yes he will gain more with dianabol but he will lose the water weight once he stops. So why not just eliminate the bloat completely. Just my 2 cents. Dbol is a great steroid, but I dont like it for an oral only cycle
I would wait and start with injecables and an oral to kick start as said above.. Actually thats what i did. and to be honest next time i might kick start min cycle with a fast acting injectable i havent looked into it yet but i like the injectables way better. i hate thinking about my liver i have done a ton of drinking in my life and the poor organ could use a rest.
Plus and im no security expert but if your traveling how easy is it to get through air ports with pills? Ive never flown with any.
be one with the needle...ommmmm
I never see what has been done; I only see what remains to be done.-buddah


I've flown domestic and international with various pills. Usually carry them in a pill organizer device and they NEVER question it. If they do, I would say it's a mixture of Rx meds and vitamins. I'd never consider bringing vials/pins on a flight. But orals have not been an issue. We're talking about a dozen or so flights with aas orals in plain sight of authorities. Way too many people travel with way too many pills for them to spend one iota of their time questioning the identity of an generic advil, tylenol, Dbol or whatever.


You're right GMO - I just blasted orals continuously for months. Lab result showed liver values only very slightly elevated which Doc said was not even elevated enough to warrant attention. Liver toxicity is usually exaggerated and embellished that is, unless your liver is in poor shape to begin with. However, I would not recommend anyone to run orals for as long as I did without a break.


I would skip the oral only cycle and wait until you can do it right. GMO is right about posting your info. Check the sticky in my signature about what you need to post when asking for cycle advice.


Correct me if I am wrong but a PH/DS cycle , I am guessing thats the compounds he's talking about. Would cost just as much as real gear if not more exspecialy if its a oral only cycle. .... I Flew a few weeks back and had my scrips with me which where not aas but still TSA did not even take second look at them nor did they even check the lables to see if the right stuff was in bottles. They got bombs and stuff to worrie about.



Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't really dig oral cycles but if I was to do one it would be something like,
1 d-bol 30 mg/d
2 d-bol 30 mg/d
3 d-bol 30 mg/d win 30 mg/d
4 d-bol 30 mg/d win 30 mg/d
5 d-bol 30 mg/d win 30 mg/d
6 d-bol 30 mg/d win 30 mg/d
7 win 30 mg/d
8 win 30 mg/d
See Glycoman's articles at: http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f497/
Travel and cycling? Doesn't sound to promising. You'll probably end up damaging your body, as in side effects and your liver. Orals are MEAN as fuck on your liver. What are you even planning to use as a PCT? PH's too? wtf;

if it weren't a price issue i'd recommend an oral only cycle a friend of mine did that actually gave great results. It was 70mg anavar 8 weeks. He lost 10 pounds but went from soft to ripped. If I had to guess I'd say it was 9 pounds muscle gain 20 pounds fat loss, and a good pound of new veins haha.

This is kind of an overstatement. Yes, orals usually do cause some liver distress, but as long as you keep the dosing reasonable and within a small amount of time, 6-10 weeks max, I doubt you'd suffer any liver damage that could even touch alcohol abuse.
Horror stories of pros who've died and end up with a shriveled Styrofoam-like liver usually abused orals for years and combined with diuretics really put the nail in the coffin.
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