Gyno Blitzkrieg

**redkingrory** · 06-26-2011, 07:35 PM

Gyno Blitzkrieg

I have read and studied multiple, multiple threads, forums, & reviews concerning Gyno. It's causes, symptoms & stages. I'm looking for anyones opinion on the dosing, what they did to combat it.

About my case of Gyno: I've cycled before, used proper PCT. No gyno. I haven't had any signs or symptoms of Gyno until my doctor put me on 2 medications. Minocycline 100mg ED & Mirtazapine 7.5mg ED before bed. After a month of being on these I started to notice some symptoms of gyno. Tender nips, puffiness. I thought it might have been caused by the excess weight i've gained. Having a kid takes a lot of time away from the gym. Thought nothing of it, to be honest. Another 2 weeks went by, I noticed a bb sized something developing. Thought it was a fatty deposit. I said FUCK THIS! I'm going to the doctor. He said it was Gyno and that the Mirtazapine was the cause. Had blood work done. Everything was normal. Took me off both meds just in to be sure. He said it should go away. I'm going to run Letro and Nolva to clear this problem up before I start to cycle again. I realize Letro is very strong, eliminates 90% of all estro in the body. There is also the rebound from taking Letro. I plan to battle the rebound with Nolva. It's not prolactin induced either.

I've ordered 30 x 2.5mg Letro & 60 x 10mg Nolva.

Generic Femara. Letrozole

Generic Nolvadex. Tamoxifen

Week 1: All Letrozole, tapper up.
Day-1: .5mg
Day-2: 1.0mg
Day-3: 1.5mg
Day-4: 2.0mg
Day-5: 2.5mg

I plan on staying at 2.5 mg Ed until I feel the Gyno has reduced significantly or better yet, is gone. Tapper down from 2.5mg ED, 2.0mg, 1.5, you get the point. Now, to fight the rebound of Letro.

Week:1 All Nolvadex, tapper down.
Days: 1-7: 30 mg, ED

Week:2
Days: 1-7: 20mg, ED

Week:3-4
Days: 1-7: 10mg, ED

I'm hoping it will clear up much faster than that. Everyone's different though.
How does this sound? Any opinions? Personal expn's? Let's hear it.

**underscore** · 06-27-2011, 12:56 AM

Since you aren't on a cycle I can see that letro blowing away your sex drive so be prepared for that.

I would also like to know the amount of time from your last cycle was it before you started seeing gyno.

I honestly don't believe either of those drugs gave you the gyno.

Mirtazapine can actually lower prolactin. I don't see how this could give you gyno. It is an antidepressant right?

Minocycline I'm not too sure about. I would google this stuff and see if anything related to gyno comes up.

But honestly I think it has to do with your last cycle, more than it would just these items above.

**LightBearer** · 06-27-2011, 01:00 AM

you should get aromasin to battle the rebound for sure

**redkingrory** · 06-27-2011, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by underscore

Since you aren't on a cycle I can see that letro blowing away your sex drive so be prepared for that.

I would also like to know the amount of time from your last cycle was it before you started seeing gyno.

I honestly don't believe either of those drugs gave you the gyno.

Mirtazapine can actually lower prolactin. I don't see how this could give you gyno. It is an antidepressant right?

Minocycline I'm not too sure about. I would google this stuff and see if anything related to gyno comes up.

But honestly I think it has to do with your last cycle, more than it would just these items above.

I'm positive these medications have induced gyno;

My last cycle, was last summer.

Mirtazapine can lower cortisol.

I was using it for stress and sleep at 7.5mg before bed. The lower dosage of it makes more of sedative. Crazy, I know. My gyno doesn't feel like rock either, pretty small, only hurts when I apply direct pressure to certain areas. I've gained weight since being on the meds, haven't been to the gym for a while either. Having your 1st kid will do that to you?

Effects of mirtazapine on dehydroepiandrosterone-s... [J Psychiatr Res. 2009] - PubMed result

Some people have reported getting gyno on Minocycline as well.. Nothing documented tho. I found what looked to be some promising articles about it, but they're in french, wtf?

Adverse effects of Remeron

CNS: Sedation and anticholinergic (atropine-like) effects; confusion (especially in elderly), disturbed concentration, hallucinations, disorientation, decreased memory, feelings of unreality, delusions, anxiety, nervousness, restlessness, agitation, panic, insomnia, nightmares, hypomania, mania, exacerbation of psychosis, drowsiness, weakness, fatigue, headache, numbness, agitation (less likely with this drug than with other antidepressants)
CV: Orthostatic hypotension, hypertension, syncope, tachycardia, palpitations, MI, arrhythmias, heart block, precipitation of CHF, CVA
Endocrine: Elevated or depressed blood sugar; elevated prolactin levels; inappropriate ADH secretion
GI: Dry mouth, constipation, paralytic ileus, nausea (less likely with this drug than with other antidepressants), increased appetite, weight gain, vomiting, anorexia, epigastric distress, diarrhea, flatulence, dysphagia, peculiar taste, increased salivation, stomatitis, glossitis, parotid swelling, abdominal cramps, black tongue, liver enzyme elevations
GU: Urinary retention, delayed micturition, dilation of urinary tract, gynecomastia, testicular swelling in men; breast enlargement, menstrual irregularity,galactorrhea in women; increased or decreased libido; impotence
Hematologic: Agranulocytosis, neutropenia
Hypersensitivity: Rash, pruritus, vasculitis, petechiae, photosensitization, edema

http://nurseslabs.com/drug-study/mirtazapine/ ^^^

**redkingrory** · 06-27-2011, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by LightBearer

you should get aromasin to battle the rebound for sure

I got some good advice from M4A3 about taking aromasin with it?
Should I continue the aromasin, lets say for a week after I'm done with my last dose of letro, & at what dosage .. 12.5?

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