Thread: advice?

I would trust some sponsors here over your dirty kitchen. If the powder you get from Thailand is dirty, what then? Can you verify that it's clean or the right potency? I'm guessing you couldn't test for this, since you can't use a computer or even put together a basic sentence with good grammar and punctuation.

damn thats snappy are u a chick... ? i get sachets from thailand of oils ha ha ha your a crackup ...im only interested in proper feed back so u can waste your time pissin in someone elses pocket is that grammer clear enough for you

Originally Posted by sambolovesit

damn thats snappy are u a chick... ? i get sachets from thailand of oils ha ha ha your a crackup ...im only interested in proper feed back so u can waste your time pissin in someone elses pocket is that grammer clear enough for you

Originally Posted by sambolovesit

damn thats snappy are u a chick... ? i get sachets from thailand of oils ha ha ha your a crackup ...im only interested in proper feed back so u can waste your time pissin in someone elses pocket is that grammer clear enough for you

You really know how to win people over with your kind words and your lack of ability to properly communicate in written English.

You write like a ten year old. I hope you are not older than 19...serious.

edit: I am a man.

I think making tren and test from the pellets is a pretty good bet. However it'd be much easier just to check out the sponsor section and do it that way. I don't think it's worth making the test. Test P is pretty cheap. The tren is worth making though.

Making Tren for your furry friends...

Do that. ^^^

Side note: Ever do the powder tren heavy? When I do it that's how I plan on doing it so I can measure the exact dosage.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Do that. ^^^

Side note: Ever do the powder tren heavy? When I do it that's how I plan on doing it so I can measure the exact dosage.

Raw powders are a better alternative for sure as long as you trust your powder source.

TREN PELLET TO CRYSTAL CONVERSION
You dont need a kit.

1 crush the pellets in a pyrex measuring cup.
2. add 150ml methanol. Heet in the yellow and blue bottle will work.
Allow 30 min to dissolve.
3. pour through a coffee filter. Make sure to capture the fluid in another pyrex measuring cup or 700+ml bomex beaker. This fluid is where your tren is.
4. pour 500ml ice cold water into the fluid. You will see the tren appear.
5. pour this through a Brown cone shaped coffee filter. Dont buy cheap ones.

There is now tren powder in the filter.
6. rinse at least 3-4 times with distilled water by pouring through the filter.
7. Allow 24 hours at least to dry. (A couple days is better) I like to put it in a bowl with a lamp over it. DO NOT PUT IN OVEN>

Once dry it is ready to be weighed and prepared for injection.

I just want to go on the record saying I dont think the syno conversion is a great idea.
Prop is EVERYWHERE and cheap. I started converting syno when there was a shortage of raws during the olympics in China. Channels are wide open right now though and its cheaper and easier to buy it.

The SYNO conversion:

Supplies Needed:

Start with 2 carts then once you have it down you can do more. Trust me on this I don’t do more than 4 after MANY conversions.

A couple of 600ml Bomex beakers/ or coffee pots and Pyrex measuring cups of equal volume will suffice. MUST HAVE A POUR SPOUT ON THE FRONT and the ability to determine how much fluid is in the container.

2 Bottles of HEET. Methanol, yellow and blue bottles.

Coffee filters, cup not cone, big ones.

Paper clips or clothespins, have many on hand just incase.

2 gallons distilled water. Keep in refrigerator at while not using so it’s always cool.

Cottage cheese or margarine container thoroughly cleaned with a safety pin hole in the bottom. This must allow the distilled water to drip not pour in. Test it before you use it. It must be able to hold 500ml distilled water.

A bowl and some paper towels.

Preferably you will also have a desk lamp that will radiate a lot of heat.


1. 2 carts syno pellets in a 600ml Bomex glass beaker. Use a paperclip to push the pellets out.

2. Crush the pellets into a powder. (Doesn’t have to be perfect, this is just to make it dissolve faster)

3. Add roughly 100ml -150ml methanol. (HEET) Yellow and blue bottle.

4. Cover top. Swirl around from time to time until all residual pellet fragments are dissolved. This will not be clear there will be powder in the heet. You know it’s done because the larger fragments are dissolved.

5. Fasten a coffee filter to another flask or coffee pot, ( what I use sometimes) Fasten with clothespins or paper clips. Make sure you use something with a pour spout like a coffee pot or beaker. Make sure you can easily unfasten the paperclips or whatever from the front pour spout area in order to drain the fluid.

6. Pour the dissolved solution through the coffee filter. This gets out the binders and fillers. There should be some white residue left in the filter. Filter times vary depending on filters. Use cup filters not cone.

7. While filtering wash the 600ml Bomex beaker or the like. Again make sure it has a pour spout. Pyrex measuring cups work as well. DRY the beaker totally.

8. Remove the coffee filter with the binders and throw it away

9. Pour the syno methanol solution into the clean, dry 600ml beaker.

10. Place the cottage cheese container on top, fill with roughly 350ml-400ml distilled water and put the whole contraption in the freezer. The water should be dripping slowly into the beaker. Make sure to keep an eye on it. Takes maybe 15 min.

11. Once the water reaches the 450ml or so mark remove it from the freezer and stop the drip. On the 2-3-4th batches you’ll have a lower level as you’ll use less methanol so your total volume after adding distilled water will be more like 350-400ml.

12. After cleaning the Beaker or whatever you used previously, fasten another coffee filter to the rim. Be sure it can take 500ml+ and make sure the filter is on tight. This is where your PROP is.

13. Slowly pour the solution into the filter. Big filters work better for me because they are easier to attach and to deal with in general. You don’t want to have to remove the filter with the prop crystals in it and have it spill all over you sink or carpet. Let it filter through you may need to kind of scrape the bottom of the beaker to get all the crystals out. You can use an additional 100ml or so distilled water to rinse the beaker out and add to the filtrate. DISTILLED WATER ONLY HERE.

14. Take the Filter after it has drained and there is a white mushy/chalky powder remaining. Get a bowl and put a few paper towels in the bottom to absorb fluid. Put the coffee filter in the bowl on top of the paper towels, additional fluid will begin to be absorbed into the paper towels. I like to set up a desk lamp with a bright light and put it over the bowl very close to the powder, NOT ON. LOL and Not in the bloody oven for *&%$ sake unless you want to ruin everything. You will need to let everything dry 100% this is very important. After a few min replace the paper towels on bottom, eventually remove them so everything can dry.You’ll need to use something to scrape the powder off the filter and chop it up a bit into a finer and finer powder until it’s dry. If you let it sit alone it can take days to dry. If you use a lamp or something you can do it in a few hours thus reducing the whole process time by several days.

Now repeat 3 more times. Everything the same except reduce the amount of methanol to only as much as is needed to dissolve the powder completely. This time around you should not see any powder like the first time as we already removed the fillers. So once dissolved the solution should be ALMOST clear but not like pure water. If you have pieces that won’t dissolve, you didn’t let the powder dry and you’re a Weenie. You’ll be fine just keep on with it as planned and be sure to dry it better next round.

15. After the 4th re-crystallization leave the filtrate in the filter still attached to the contraption you were using to drain your fluid into.Undo the front and pour the fluid out being careful not to spill your prop crystals.
Rinse the crystals with 1 gallon Distilled water. Do this by slowly pouring water into the filter where your prop crystals are. I use a spray bottle to keep everything moving and to keep things off the sides. RINSE ALOT. You will have to Pour the water out of the beaker many times before your done, this is why I said to make sure you can easily remove the fixture.
NOW DRY

After you have dried it for the fourth time make sure it’s dry this time, don’t be a weenie. It will screw everything up. Must be dry.

16. From here, weigh your powder to be sure what you’ve got. You’ll have from 2 carts between 2-3.5 grams probably depending on how anal you were. Remember we would rather have 2 grams of PROP than 3.5 grams of Prop and Estradiol.

When converting your crystals into an injectable, for the first few times you MAY want to heat the powder in oil only. NO BB or BA until after and using a different filter. Depending on how you’re going to filter, syringe filter or stericup vac system you will want to filter the warm oil and prop only. Then, using another filter add BA and BB. The reason for this is the estradiol is only very slightly soluble in oil and therefore will be trapped by the filter if you had any remaining. If you added the BA and BB it will make the estradiol soluble. If you have done 4 re-crystallizations you should have little or no Estradiol left anyways but at first I did this as a precaution. I no longer do this but if you’re concerned, this will 100% eradicate any residual Estradiol. If you use stericup vacuum setup you will need 1x 22um syringe filter for the BA/BB. Again this is not really necessary.

I have done it both ways and my recent batches I have been mixing BA/BB and oil with prop and filtering all at once. I’m currently running this at 150 EOD, 6 weeks in, No issues for me or my training partner who’s using 2x my amount. Once you’ve done the conversion a few times you will get better and better. Your yield will be higher and your confidence in the end product will be absolute.

I decided to add this as an afterthought. It would seem that there is a lot of confusion surrounding this conversion. Many people have been led to believe that you need an estrogen remover when in fact you do not. The process I have outlined will leave you with a very clean product with 0 estradiol if done as outlined. I have been running it for quite some time now at doses up to 150mg a day with no bra needed. I also know personally several people using the exact same process. No complications, No tits. With SYno there is ALWAYS potential for estrogen to be remaining in the powder. I dont care how you do it. Keep NOLVA on hand and discontinue the use of your prop if you develop a C cup.
BRUNDEL

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Raw powders are a better alternative for sure as long as you trust your powder source.

Nah I meant convert the pellets to powder.

Originally Posted by thepunisher000

You really know how to win people over with your kind words and your lack of ability to properly communicate in written English.

You write like a ten year old. I hope you are not older than 19...serious.

edit: I am a man.

like i said go annoy someone else with your petty shit dickhead ...ova here in australia we use alot of slang 'just for u ' this means shortened words that r just a quick way of talkin or writing ...and im not tryin to win u ova im here for people that no wtf they r talkin about can give me advice so piss of and pull ya cock out and have a pull ova yourself pretty boy

Originally Posted by sambolovesit

like i said go annoy someone else with your petty shit dickhead ...ova here in australia we use alot of slang 'just for u ' this means shortened words that r just a quick way of talkin or writing ...and im not tryin to win u ova im here for people that no wtf they r talkin about can give me advice so piss of and pull ya cock out and have a pull ova yourself pretty boy

8 replies provide you with tips, you ignore them, and you only acknowledge my reply...

I can see why the Australia women that I've met prefer American men

Good luck. My tip would be to have someone help you with the process, because I get the impression that you aren't too intelligent. Peace.

(expects another response that ignores the people who were willing to help a douchebag)