need help finishing up first cycle

**alphabolic** · 06-28-2011, 04:04 PM

Overall it went great and I went from 205 to 230 in 7 weeks of GP test prop 350mg eod and 6 weeks of GP var. I'm cutting it short one week because I like where I'm at and want a slightly more easy recovery. I did 3 shots of 500iu pregnyl HCG and have 3000iu left.

If I want to stop now but use up my HCG should I do the 3000iu in one shot or a different way? And when I'm done with the HCG and prop should I wait 5 days to start my PCT which is

Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
Clomid 100/75/50/50

Also am I gonna need to add nolva to my PCT at all? Feels like I'm wasting it because a-dex on cycle prevented gyno perfectly. Also had zero acne, hair loss, little shrinkage.

Thoughts?

**alphabolic** · 06-28-2011, 08:06 PM

bump

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 06:37 AM

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**nby** · 06-29-2011, 06:55 AM

Just keep doing about 250-500iu's EOD until a few days before PCT, pct looks ok.

**SUPERFLY1234** · 06-29-2011, 08:22 AM

just rap the hgc up, and place it in the frig. save it for your next cycle. wait 6 day after you last prop shot, then start you pct. and get ready for to feel like a regular guy again.

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

just rap the hgc up, and place it in the frig. save it for your next cycle. wait 6 day after you last prop shot, then start you pct. and get ready for to feel like a regular guy again.

I wont be running my next cycle for at least a year so I'm gonna finish my hcg. I was at 15% bf which is my only regret despite putting on a lot of muscle. My endurance was absolutely horrible on cycle and I had to go twice a day to the gym for a half hour each because I got so winded. I played a game of tennis with my friend today and was drenched in sweat and out of breath half way throigh. My next cycle will probably be a cutting cycle with tren because my friend has human grade tren he doesn't want. (Yes lucky) and I'll get it for a low price.

My biggest concern/worry about pct is libido/ED issues more than losing strength/mass. Iill be pissed if it doesn't return to normal in 1-3 months

**trapzilla** · 06-29-2011, 10:34 AM

you should leave a week between last HCG shot and starting PCT as HCG is suppressive itself.
Nolva is not needed in PCT
There is no such thing as human grade Tren- tren is only made UGL despite whatever label is put on it

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by trapzilla

you should leave a week between last HCG shot and starting PCT as HCG is suppressive itself.
Nolva is not needed in PCT
There is no such thing as human grade Tren- tren is only made UGL despite whatever label is put on it

I thought world pharma was HG since that's where he got it? Oh well I trust their stuff to be great quality anyways.

The only reason I considered adding nolva to pct was to add another SERM to recover even better but I'll leave it out.

Hopefully with this relatively mild cycle, I wont have any prolonged ED libido issues.

**skinnyguy180** · 06-29-2011, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by alphabolic

My biggest concern/worry about pct is libido/ED issues more than losing strength/mass. Iill be pissed if it doesn't return to normal in 1-3 months

get some some kind of male enhancement and natty test boosters like tribulus if after everything else your still worried about your little sergent.

**LightBearer** · 06-29-2011, 10:49 AM

Jesus you ran 1050mg of prop per week for a first cycle?

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by LightBearer

Jesus you ran 1050mg of prop per week for a first cycle?

My bad I meant 350mg a week or 100mg eod lol 1050mg a week is insanefor a first cycle

**LightBearer** · 06-29-2011, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by alphabolic

My bad I meant 350mg a week or 100mg eod lol 1050mg a week is insanefor a first cycle

LOL OH OK I was about to rep you for being a genitic freak and not getting sides from a gram a week first timer

**ted8541** · 06-29-2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by alphabolic

Overall it went great and I went from 205 to 230 in 7 weeks of GP test prop 350mg eod and 6 weeks of GP var. I'm cutting it short one week because I like where I'm at and want a slightly more easy recovery. I did 3 shots of 500iu pregnyl HCG and have 3000iu left.

If I want to stop now but use up my HCG should I do the 3000iu in one shot or a different way? And when I'm done with the HCG and prop should I wait 5 days to start my PCT which is

Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
Clomid 100/75/50/50

Also am I gonna need to add nolva to my PCT at all? Feels like I'm wasting it because a-dex on cycle prevented gyno perfectly. Also had zero acne, hair loss, little shrinkage.

Thoughts?

Quick side question. I see a lot of referrences to GP. Is everyone referring to Generics Pharma or Geneza Pharma? Thanks.

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by ted8541

Quick side question. I see a lot of referrences to GP. Is everyone referring to Generics Pharma or Geneza Pharma? Thanks.

GP is geneza pharm

GL is generic labs. Nobody really refers to them as generic pharma as far as I know

**XYZ** · 06-29-2011, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

just rap the hgc up, and place it in the frig. save it for your next cycle. wait 6 day after you last prop shot, then start you pct. and get ready for to feel like a regular guy again.

HCG is only good for 30 days once reconstituted and stored in the refrigereator.

**XYZ** · 06-29-2011, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by trapzilla

you should leave a week between last HCG shot and starting PCT as HCG is suppressive itself.
Nolva is not needed in PCT
There is no such thing as human grade Tren- tren is only made UGL despite whatever label is put on it

Great post.

**alphabolic** · 06-29-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by CT

HCG is only good for 30 days once reconstituted and stored in the refrigereator.

I was under the impression that hcg lasted up to 45 days in the fridge with bacteriostatic water which is what I did

**ted8541** · 06-30-2011, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by alphabolic

GP is geneza pharm

GL is generic labs. Nobody really refers to them as generic pharma as far as I know

Got it. Thanks Alpha.

**jannet** · 06-30-2011, 11:41 PM

Its cool................

**alphabolic** · 07-01-2011, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by ted8541

Got it. Thanks Alpha.

np

Originally Posted by jannet

Its cool................

in my mind i keep wanting to add a low dose of nolva to my pct at 20mg ed throughout the whole 4-5 weeks with the clomid and aromasin. i know people say it'll hinder gains even more, but honestly i would like to cut down from where i am now which is 220. i'd rather be shredded at 200 which is why i should've done a cut cycle. i want the nolva so i can help restore the HPTA instead of relying on only clomid to do that. i realized towards the end of my cycle that i'd rather not be this big. i outgrew a lot of clothes that are too tight. i also have a lot more trouble with cardio because i cant carry my own weight that well. if i keep some strength and 5-10 pounds of lean mass i'll be happy. but bf% needs to get down.

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