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    First time looking for help.

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    5'10" 170lbs 8%
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    I lift 5x a week alternating upper and lower body.
    Very healthy diet chicken ground Turkey with vegetables eggs etc etc no fast food no garbage.
    I'm looking to bulk.

    I'm looking to do my first cycle, and I'm not sure what to get. I'm not sure where either, but I know that's not allowed to be discussed here. However I'd like to know what I should get before I start looking to purchase them.

    I have trouble putting on weight I've had to work my ass off to get to 170 I'd like to bulk up.

    Thank you in advance for your time, and suggestions.

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    Most of the veterans on her will tell you to eat more and lift heavy

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    start by reading all the stickies

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    Start with test e - 500mg a week for 10 weeks
    You will need 2 bottles of test, some clomid, & aromasin

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    test e 500mg/week week 1-12
    proviron 50mg/day week 5-13
    hcg 250 IU on friday, 250IU on tuesday week 10-13

    then pct starts in week 14
    nolvadex first day in pct 60mg
    week 14 40mg
    week 15-16 20mg
    week 17 10mg
    and take zma in the pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtwarrior View Post
    Most of the veterans on her will tell you to eat more and lift heavy
    I clear 6,000 calories a day, and I lift very heavy.

    Quote Originally Posted by maged View Post
    test e 500mg/week week 1-12
    proviron 50mg/day week 5-13
    hcg 250 IU on friday, 250IU on tuesday week 10-13

    then pct starts in week 14
    nolvadex first day in pct 60mg
    week 14 40mg
    week 15-16 20mg
    week 17 10mg
    and take zma in the pct
    Thank you for your suggestion I sent you a pm.

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    Well I tried to pm you but I can't lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs2606 View Post
    Well I tried to pm you but I can't lol.
    cuz u must be 50 posts at least....when u have 50 posts feel free to pm me, also check the links in my signature

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    Why would you only use 250iu of hcg? Its pretty much always 500iu 2x a week

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    Yeah don't listen to maged. That is all fuckered up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maged View Post
    test e 500mg/week week 1-12
    proviron 50mg/day week 5-13
    hcg 250 IU on friday, 250IU on tuesday week 10-13

    then pct starts in week 14
    nolvadex first day in pct 60mg
    week 14 40mg
    week 15-16 20mg
    week 17 10mg
    and take zma in the pct

    Why wait until just before PCT to run your HCG? No...I don't think so, 250iu-500iu x2/wk throughout your cycle is best. It is also best to run an AI like aromasin or arimidex on cycle. Also, Clomid is FAR superior to Nolva for stimulating FSH/LH and doesn't negatively effect IGF-1 levels. Do some more research before giving out advice to newbies, cuz your going to fuck someone up with your jacked up cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Why wait until just before PCT to run your HCG? No...I don't think so, 250iu-500iu x2/wk throughout your cycle is best. It is also best to run an AI like aromasin or arimidex on cycle. Also, Clomid is FAR superior to Nolva for stimulating FSH/LH and doesn't negatively effect IGF-1 levels. Do some more research before giving out advice to newbies, cuz your going to fuck someone up with your jacked up cycles.
    Whammy!

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    What do you suggest sloppy?

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    Props to GMO!!

    read the first cycle sticky it literally lays it out for you but if we must

    week 1-12 500mg test enth/cyp split mon/thurs
    week 1-12 .25mg adex ed
    week 1-12 500iu HCG 2x week
    week 13-18 12.5mg aromasin ed
    week 15-18 100/75/50/50 mg clomid ed
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    Don't forget you're going to need size 21-23 needles, 1.5 inch for glute and 1 inch for quad injections. 10-12 weeks means you need at least 20-30 syringes, each brand new for each injection. Buy a new set of needles only so that you don't use dulled needles for injecting that you've pulled from the vial with. You can preload your syringes weeks ahead, but make sure you never reuse needles or syringes or you might get some nasty infections (man abscesses are so nasty it's unbelievable )

    For HCG, go subcutaneous injections with insulin pins around your navel area. Such a small needle that it's nearly painless from what people say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapzilla View Post
    Props to GMO!!

    read the first cycle sticky it literally lays it out for you but if we must

    week 1-12 500mg test enth/cyp split mon/thurs
    week 1-12 .25mg adex ed
    week 1-12 500iu HCG 2x week
    week 13-18 12.5mg aromasin ed
    week 15-18 100/75/50/50 mg clomid ed
    This looks pretty good.

    HCG isn't required but it is nice to have. I didn't use it on my first one but I am this time. I will see how much faster I come back. You might add an oral kicker at the front if you feel like it. Dbol or Tbol would be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapzilla View Post
    Props to GMO!!

    read the first cycle sticky it literally lays it out for you but if we must

    week 1-12 500mg test enth/cyp split mon/thurs
    week 1-12 .25mg adex ed
    week 1-12 500iu HCG 2x week
    week 13-18 12.5mg aromasin ed
    week 15-18 100/75/50/50 mg clomid ed


    If you want to add hcg, run it 250iu-500iu x2/wk throughout your cycle. It will make recovery easier...

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    Ugh I wish I could send pm's I may have to post whore later. How hard is it to acquired syringes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs2606 View Post
    Ugh I wish I could send pm's I may have to post whore later. How hard is it to acquired syringes?
    Virtually impossible!! Jk some sponsors on here can help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Why wait until just before PCT to run your HCG? No...I don't think so, 250iu-500iu x2/wk throughout your cycle is best. It is also best to run an AI like aromasin or arimidex on cycle. Also, Clomid is FAR superior to Nolva for stimulating FSH/LH and doesn't negatively effect IGF-1 levels. Do some more research before giving out advice to newbies, cuz your going to fuck someone up with your jacked up cycles.
    My advice, listen to GMO. His advice is always solid.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Why wait until just before PCT to run your HCG? No...I don't think so, 250iu-500iu x2/wk throughout your cycle is best. It is also best to run an AI like aromasin or arimidex on cycle. Also, Clomid is FAR superior to Nolva for stimulating FSH/LH and doesn't negatively effect IGF-1 levels. Do some more research before giving out advice to newbies, cuz your going to fuck someone up with your jacked up cycles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rs2606 View Post
    Ugh I wish I could send pm's I may have to post whore later. How hard is it to acquired syringes?
    Easy if you know where to look.
    Domestic sources are plentiful and cheap.
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    GPZservices. Whatever you do don't get cheap ones. I ordered like 100 cheap ones from another source. When I put my 23g on to do the deal it was on crooked and holy fuck that was one painful inject. It bled like a mothfucker too. Not to mention the plunger was very choppy going down which didn't feel good either.

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    If you can get HCG, I recommend it. Keep those loads big and those balls big as well.


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