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    more accutane questions

    So I went into my doc and told him about my acne troubles and that nothing seems to work. I suggested he prescribe me accutane at 20 mg for 4-6 months. After another appointment and a long talk, he was pretty devout that we should do 40 mg minimum for 5 months. He also said he sometimes doses up to 80 mg. I will refuse to take more than 40 mg, if he so suggests. He wants me in for monthly blood tests, which is reassuring. What do yall think?

    Option 1. I ignore his educated advice and dose what the general consensus here says (20mg)

    Option 2. Trust my doc and his experience to an extent (40mg)

    Option 3. Do whatever my doc says and ignore my research (40+mg)

    Option 4. (Left blank for those capable of thinking outside the box)

    Also, I have an upcoming cycle that I really don't want to put off. I assume that I should drop any orals that I planned on taking... right?
    Would it be irresponsible to just run some injectables while on the accutane?

    Thanx and reps to all who help.

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    Messed with prohormones back in the day, but one REAL cycle under my belt

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    I honestly would not run anything while on accutane. The stuff is harsh and I've been on it for four months before at 20, 40, and 60mg before. Dried me up pretty bad I just had to stop after a month at 60mg.

    I would never run it at 80mg, thats insane and your bound to have bad side effects at that dose imo. Plus remember the more you take, the more money your doctor is making as well, keep that in mind..

    It worked pretty well, I rarely get any cysts, and if I do, they don't get big enough to cause big problems anymore, just actually die out early enough not to do any damage under the skin in a couple of days. Only will I get whiteheads if I'm sweating a lot which is during summer.

    I would go with option 2...but I don't know how bad your acne is so I can't really give you the best advice.

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    I've read time and time again that 20mg works wonders. Many people here would agree 20mg is plenty for 4-6 months.

    As far as being on cycle and accutane people do it with no problems.


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    I work in medical field and you have to realize there are some really smart doctors... and some doctors who aren't.

    Many researches support that low dose accutane is effective and there are some really bad side effects at higher dosages of accutane.

    I personally only been on 20mg accutane for 2 weeks and my lips are super dry and chappy and see some improvement in acne already. I really don't think benefit will outweigh the risks in high doses like 40mg+.

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    take it or risk scarring.


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    Thanx for all your help so far

    Gymrat- You say it is ok to go on cycle while on accutane, but what about orals?

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    You are in good hands.
    In the UK dose is weight dependat, think 2 years ago I was under 90kg thus I was given only 40mg/ day.

    I wasnt happy with the results. Still had some acne left and it came back to 'normal' after a month.
    Next time I ask for it I will make sure I'll get 80mg (after all I am around 100kg now )
    I know a juicer who takes 100mg.


    Agree to 80mg, and attend your blood test, doc will lower the dose or take you off the drug if you get bad blood test results.
    Last edited by Dannie; 07-07-2011 at 10:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanM4208 View Post
    Thanx for all your help so far

    Gymrat- You say it is ok to go on cycle while on accutane, but what about orals?
    Accutane is toxic for the liver (hence the blood tests), its ok to run inj. while on accurtane.
    Orals are toxit too thus I would never run them while on Accutane, although a few months ago I've read a log of a guy who run 40mg Acc wiht 2 orals and was fine. I wouldnt run nor recommend running orals while on Acc, and to be safe get some liv protection pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanM4208 View Post
    Thanx for all your help so far

    Gymrat- You say it is ok to go on cycle while on accutane, but what about orals?
    I personally wouldn't know, hopefully someone who has better knowledge will chip in.


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    40mg ED is ok as long as he's keeping an eye on your blood work.

    Injectables are fine, but I wouldn't be hitting up any orals if blood work is being done, it's going to raise a red flag with your AST and ALT being totally out of range, if he did a GGT that would tell the whole story but most Drs. won't order that test. DO NOT USE TREN while on accutane.

    Run some liver support as 40mg may cause some issues. 20mg ED works fine but if he's willing to give you 40mg ED try it out and see how you respond.

    He will be watching your blood work so I wouldn't be concerned. Start the cycle one month after the accutane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    40mg ED is ok as long as he's keeping an eye on your blood work.

    Injectables are fine, but I wouldn't be hitting up any orals if blood work is being done, it's going to raise a red flag with your AST and ALT being totally out of range, if he did a GGT that would tell the whole story but most Drs. won't order that test. DO NOT USE TREN while on accutane.

    Run some liver support as 40mg may cause some issues. 20mg ED works fine but if he's willing to give you 40mg ED try it out and see how you respond.

    He will be watching your blood work so I wouldn't be concerned. Start the cycle one month after the accutane.
    Why not run Tren with Accutane? To much for the kidneys and or the liver?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BIG View Post
    Why not run Tren with Accutane? To much for the kidneys and or the liver?

    Too much on the liver.

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    Thanx for your help y'all. Looks like I wont get to try dbol for a lil while now. Probably just gunna go with a test prop/Npp cycle. Doc did say my dose was weight dependent, ill trust my doc and do what he says. Thanx again

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanM4208 View Post
    Thanx for your help y'all. Looks like I wont get to try dbol for a lil while now. Probably just gunna go with a test prop/Npp cycle. Doc did say my dose was weight dependent, ill trust my doc and do what he says. Thanx again
    I weigh 235 lbs. and I'm only taking 15-20mg a day of accutane and it's drying me out like a mofo! After 1 month of use I have maybe 10-20% of the acne that I did have!



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    Quote Originally Posted by minimal View Post
    I work in medical field and you have to realize there are some really smart doctors... and some doctors who aren't.

    Many researches support that low dose accutane is effective and there are some really bad side effects at higher dosages of accutane.

    I personally only been on 20mg accutane for 2 weeks and my lips are super dry and chappy and see some improvement in acne already. I really don't think benefit will outweigh the risks in high doses like 40mg+.
    REPS for this!
    OP, do not forget that second opinions are free. Accutane is some damn harsh shit. It can be ran successfully. You would definitely benefit from getting the labs ran and checked on a scheduled basis.

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    Thanx big n lance. Do y'all think I can get away with 20 mg of dbol? Or am I just being a jackass?

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    That's an iffy subject boss. If your going to be running both, you should definitely have your liver checked by a doctor. You want everything checked such as protein and albumin, AST, ALT, bilirubin and LDH levels. Also, with liver studies, they will also check out your prothrombin/INR levels (these are important to monitor because they measure your bodies ability to produce clotting factors).

    I know I might be missing some, but I cannot stress enough how important your liver is.

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    Guys I'm in the middle of a Sus cycle at 600mg a week. I have some accutane here and was thinking about starting 10mg ED for the next 4-6 months. Right now I'm acne free but I brake out Bad after Im off. Is starting accutane ok to start now or should I wait till im off?




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    To reiterate what Dannie said above, inj. are ok w/ accutane. So your Sus should not be a problem. I break out bad after cycle as well and I'd run it NOW to let it build up in your system so when you come off Sus it will diminish breakouts. Acne sucks. Worst side effect for me.

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    my experience....

    quite a few years ago I was 220lbs, hung up the posing trunks for good and had bad acne on back shoulders chest from running gear. Dermatologist put me on 40mg Accutane (based on bodyweight) for 26 weeks with full monitoring of blood tests. During the first couple months it absolutely magnified all of my acne and gave me a full face load of it as well.

    I had a bloody nose most mornings, a split in my bottom lip for months and some mornings had to use warm water to get my eyes open as they crusted shut during sleep. It was hell. One morning about 2.5 to 3 months in I woke up and 50% of my acne disappeared in one night. 3 days later you couldn't even tell I ever had any. I stayed on it for the full 6 months. It was still hell....but easier to deal with when you see the results.... finally.

    I have run gear since.....more sensibly....I haven't had a pimple for 16 years. It's a toxic horrible miracle drug. I wouldn't dream of running gear with it but thats just me. It is some nasty ass stuff. Definately no orals.

    If you follow the full course of accutane....it can be a permanent cure.

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    ive been on accutane for over 30 yrs cycle after cycle of it but keep it at 10 mg ed or eod if your over 35 but its safe if u use walmart milk thistle, 4 grams ed. keep your liver fresh as iam 45 and i have the hepatic enzyes of a young kid the dr told me. use it or risk scarring. i love accutane its safe and it keeps u acne free. but wat do i know after 32 yrs lifting. ct i respect you greatly but your wrong on this. 40 mg is to much. the studies say that 10mg over 5-6 months does the same as heavy accutane. i was on 80 mg at 17 and nothing, but its way to high ct when u hit are age lmfao.


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    I am sure over the past 20 years the the protocol for drugs like accutane have changed since dermatologists were initially prescribing them as unclem points out. But it's still a very serious drug and I'd still ask a medically trained expert their opinion on treatment before I followed anyones advice on it, no matter how many years they have spent lifting weights with all due respect.

    I wish my dermatologist had put me on 10mgs instead of 40mgs back then. Unless of course that dose meant it wasn't going to lead to the the permanent cure I have experienced for 16 years and had to continually be on it forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclem View Post
    ive been on accutane for over 30 yrs cycle after cycle of it but keep it at 10 mg ed or eod if your over 35 but its safe if u use walmart milk thistle, 4 grams ed. keep your liver fresh as iam 45 and i have the hepatic enzyes of a young kid the dr told me. use it or risk scarring. i love accutane its safe and it keeps u acne free. but wat do i know after 32 yrs lifting. ct i respect you greatly but your wrong on this. 40 mg is to much. the studies say that 10mg over 5-6 months does the same as heavy accutane. i was on 80 mg at 17 and nothing, but its way to high ct when u hit are age lmfao.

    You didn't read the post I was responding to did you?

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