Clen vs. ECA

LAM · 01-02-2003, 01:30 PM

I prefer clen over ECA. I take 150 mcgs daily using 2 weeks on clen then use ECA for 2 weeks.

**gopro** · 01-03-2003, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
One thing you failed to mention GP, is whether or not he is married or has gf. If so, his blood pressure is gonna be through the roof and he is a perfect candidate for a stroke at any moment. Run Forest, RUN!!!!

How true...how f'n true!

**gopro** · 01-03-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by LAM
I prefer clen over ECA. I take 150 mcgs daily using 2 weeks on clen then use ECA for 2 weeks.

Well, it seems that you don't prefer clen, but believe in cycling between the two...correct?

Martin Smolinsk · 01-03-2003, 12:40 PM

Hmmmmmmmm, interesting.

Martin Smolinsk · 01-03-2003, 12:43 PM

BTW: yeah, I have a girlfriend :-)

Martin Smolinsk · 01-04-2003, 03:08 AM

Gopro and what s the problem with sodium? Water retention, I suppose.

w8lifter · 01-04-2003, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by BO
One thing you failed to mention GP, is whether or not he is married or has gf. If so, his blood pressure is gonna be through the roof and he is a perfect candidate for a stroke at any moment. Run Forest, RUN!!!!

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Originally posted by Prince
no, I am married and it's true!

That's fuqqing funny! LOL

**gopro** · 01-04-2003, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Martin Smolinsk
Gopro and what s the problem with sodium? Water retention, I suppose.

Well, sodium does cause water retention which in turn raises blood pressure.

Striking_Cobra · 01-15-2003, 06:30 AM

GP or anyone else, would you say Clen stacked with a non-ephedra product would be okay to do since it may decrease appetite and not elevate heart rate as much as an ephedra product would?

MJ23 · 01-15-2003, 07:18 AM

I am married too and I can Attest.

Also, I know we are not taking votes but I say ECA / or T3

MJ23 · 01-15-2003, 07:22 AM

Striking Cobra - How are you doing dude?

no more muscle mag

Striking_Cobra · 01-15-2003, 11:40 AM

Sup mj. Just browsin around checkin out the scenery.

cornfed · 01-15-2003, 03:14 PM

Hola.

My opinion is that the hardest way to co would be a mix.

week 1-5
T3 pyramid .25mcg (4days), .5(4d), .75(4d), 100(11d), .75(4), .5(4), .25(4)

wks 1,2,5,6
clen up to 150-200 (or by tolerance)

wks 3,4,7,8
NYCA/ECA w/ sodium usinate

wks 7-10
gugglesterones

Just my thoughts, though I tend to go heavy w/ things.

**gopro** · 01-16-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Striking_Cobra
GP or anyone else, would you say Clen stacked with a non-ephedra product would be okay to do since it may decrease appetite and not elevate heart rate as much as an ephedra product would?

Yes, you can stack clen with a stimulant free product and be ok...unless you are extremely sensitive.

cornfed · 01-17-2003, 10:02 AM

Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once?

did I mention the once part?

**gopro** · 01-20-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by cornfed
Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once?

did I mention the once part?

You are only crazy if you try it twice my man!

Stacey · 01-22-2003, 10:10 AM

can a woman take ECA??

cornfed · 01-22-2003, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by gopro
You are only crazy if you try it twice my man!

and Princess, yes.

Stacey · 01-22-2003, 12:22 PM

COOL THANKS~ Sooo is that illegal tooo???

**Mudge** · 01-22-2003, 01:14 PM

ECA? You can still get that stuff at GNC, so it should not be illegal, not yet.

Stacey · 01-22-2003, 03:07 PM

Ohh cool!! Thanks! Is there a brand I should get?

Robboe · 01-22-2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by cornfed
Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once?

did I mention the once part?

Foolish sounds more apt.

And idiocy that you post it in such jest.

**Prince** · 01-22-2003, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
And idiocy that you post it in such jest.

jest?

90% of your posts are jest!

**Mudge** · 01-22-2003, 03:49 PM

Princess, try in the supplement forum - there are various brands and most of them are getting away from or HAVE gotten away from even ephedra, much less ephedrine, and thusly may not be that affective.

So, I'm sure there must be something out there decent, I just dont know what it is offhand. I was using Twin Labs Ripped Fuel, people talked about it giving them an energy kick etc, and I got nothing from it, I dont seem to respond well it seems

My vesion had EPHEDRA instead of EPHEDRINE which maybe the Canadians have?

cornfed · 01-22-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Foolish sounds more apt.

And idiocy that you post it in such jest.

Well, to be totally candid, my friend, it was not as foolish as I jested. You see, my body tends to stabilize more easily than your average joe in the subject of tolerance to drugs or any substance...w/ the exception of carbs LOL. I only added in the NYCA after the 10th day of the 2wker and only b/c there was zero percievable effect of the drug whether by body temp or by resting heart rate. Since that time, I only carry out clen cycles of 10 days on 10 days off as it better suits my body's tolerances. I was making the comment in jest, though I did not explain the methodology or philosophical/theoretical aspect of my thought process and actions. I left that part out b/c I was striving for a humorous stab at myself rather than a mere jest about the gravity of the subject.

**gopro** · 01-22-2003, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by cornfed
Well, to be totally candid, my friend, it was not as foolish as I jested. You see, my body tends to stabilize more easily than your average joe in the subject of tolerance to drugs or any substance...w/ the exception of carbs LOL. I only added in the NYCA after the 10th day of the 2wker and only b/c there was zero percievable effect of the drug whether by body temp or by resting heart rate. Since that time, I only carry out clen cycles of 10 days on 10 days off as it better suits my body's tolerances. I was making the comment in jest, though I did not explain the methodology or philosophical/theoretical aspect of my thought process and actions. I left that part out b/c I was striving for a humorous stab at myself rather than a mere jest about the gravity of the subject.

We all know this cornfed, but TCD just HAS to be difficult. He lacks glutamine in his diet.

cornfed · 01-22-2003, 05:28 PM

I know, bud... I like TCD ...

... now I know that's gonna get twised around... but I figured I'd clarify so that noone would run out and take 100-150mg of E or NorE while taking .2mg of clen... but I guess that'd only matter if my opinion meant sh!t to anyone here anywho

01-02-2003, 01:30 PM	#31
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01-15-2003, 06:30 AM	#39
Striking_Cobra t00t t00t Muthafu(ka! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: "Little Chicago", Ohio Posts: 209	GP or anyone else, would you say Clen stacked with a non-ephedra product would be okay to do since it may decrease appetite and not elevate heart rate as much as an ephedra product would?
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01-15-2003, 07:18 AM	#40
MJ23 World's Greatest Lovea Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pimpville Posts: 2,125	I am married too and I can Attest. Also, I know we are not taking votes but I say ECA / or T3
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01-15-2003, 07:22 AM	#41
MJ23 World's Greatest Lovea Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pimpville Posts: 2,125	Striking Cobra - How are you doing dude? no more muscle mag
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01-15-2003, 11:40 AM	#42
Striking_Cobra t00t t00t Muthafu(ka! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: "Little Chicago", Ohio Posts: 209	Sup mj. Just browsin around checkin out the scenery.
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01-03-2003, 12:40 PM	#34
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	Hmmmmmmmm, interesting.

01-03-2003, 12:43 PM	#35
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	BTW: yeah, I have a girlfriend :-)

01-04-2003, 03:08 AM	#36
Martin Smolinsk Martinmax Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Slovakia Posts: 194	Gopro and what s the problem with sodium? Water retention, I suppose.

01-15-2003, 03:14 PM	#43
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	Hola. My opinion is that the hardest way to co would be a mix. week 1-5 T3 pyramid .25mcg (4days), .5(4d), .75(4d), 100(11d), .75(4), .5(4), .25(4) wks 1,2,5,6 clen up to 150-200 (or by tolerance) wks 3,4,7,8 NYCA/ECA w/ sodium usinate wks 7-10 gugglesterones Just my thoughts, though I tend to go heavy w/ things.
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01-17-2003, 10:02 AM	#45
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once? did I mention the once part?
	- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too." "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP---

01-22-2003, 10:10 AM	#47
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,588 Photos: 23	can a woman take ECA??
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01-22-2003, 12:22 PM	#49
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,588 Photos: 23	COOL THANKS~ Sooo is that illegal tooo???
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01-22-2003, 01:14 PM	#50
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	ECA? You can still get that stuff at GNC, so it should not be illegal, not yet.
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01-22-2003, 03:07 PM	#51
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,588 Photos: 23	Ohh cool!! Thanks! Is there a brand I should get?
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01-22-2003, 03:49 PM	#54
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Princess, try in the supplement forum - there are various brands and most of them are getting away from or HAVE gotten away from even ephedra, much less ephedrine, and thusly may not be that affective. So, I'm sure there must be something out there decent, I just dont know what it is offhand. I was using Twin Labs Ripped Fuel, people talked about it giving them an energy kick etc, and I got nothing from it, I dont seem to respond well it seems My vesion had EPHEDRA instead of EPHEDRINE which maybe the Canadians have?
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

01-22-2003, 05:28 PM	#57
cornfed Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: serenity now insanity later Posts: 1,802	I know, bud... I like TCD ... ... now I know that's gonna get twised around... but I figured I'd clarify so that noone would run out and take 100-150mg of E or NorE while taking .2mg of clen... but I guess that'd only matter if my opinion meant sh!t to anyone here anywho
	- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting