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Originally Posted by jr214

Wondering if any of you bro`s could give some insight? Ive never combined these 3,but thinking of trying this,plz keep in mind im not trainning as a body builder,im a boxer I dont get a ua test yet.(deca). And im not looking to get ronnie c size.any way suatannon 250 at 250 mg a wk ,deca at 500mg a wk,winny tabs last 6wks at 30mg a day.have letrozole in case of gyno during,then clomid and nolva for pct. s250 to offset the deca sides and deca to help with joints while on the winny.

Bro, this cycle is all fucked up.

Never run your test lower than your Deca. You're gonna get Deca dick.

You should run the Sust at 500mg a week, and the Deca @ 300mg a week. You need to run deca at least 10 weeks, preferably 12, to see the benefits of it. You should run the sust at least two weeks longer than your deca.

Ditch the nolva for this cycle. You don't need it for PCT. Clomid is much better. Also, since you are running a 19 nor (deca), you certainly don't want to run Nolva during your cycle. It could make progestin sides worse.

Get some caber or prami to combat any possible progestin sides from the deca. Caber and Letro should be able to combat any issues that might come up during the cycle. You could run Caber 0.5mg every three days to prevent progestin issues, or take a wait and see approach. Personally, I would take it and be safe.

Also, run aromasin 12.5mg every other day (EOD) to keep your estro in check, and to keep the bloat down.

You can also run HCG 250-500iu twice a week to keep your balls from shrinking and to help with recovery in PCT.

Start your PCT two weeks after your last shot.

1-14 500mg/wk Sust (250mg every 3.5 days)
1-12 300mg/wk Deca (150mg every 3.5 days)
8-14 30-50mg Winny Everyday (ED)

1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-14 Caber 0.5mg E3.5D
1-16 HCG 250-500iu twice a week

PCT (week 17/Week 18/ Week 19/ Week 20)

Clomid 100mg ED/100mg ED/75mg ED/50mg ED
Aromasin 25mg ED/25mg ED/12.5mg ED/12.5mg ED


BTW, all this advice assumes that you are even ready for this cycle. What is your cycle history? If this is your first cycle, you should get rid of the deca and just go with test and maybe the winny. Winny can cause joint pain, so start with a lower dose (30mg) and work your way up if you have no experience with it.

Test dose should be higher than Deca. Most will recommend you run twice the test of Deca. Sust is a poor choice because of varying blood levels unless you inject it every day which would be too high of a dose for what you are looking to do. Deca must be run for a good many of wks to feel the effects at least 12 IMO. I think you should totally rethink this cycle. Also if you are only a boxer that is not tested yet why do this? Eventually you may be tested and you won't be able to use AAS. Then you could have a lower test because you ran cycles in the past. What is your Stats?? Age, bf%, Years training, cycle history and so on? I would keep it simple if you do anything at all. Maybe 300-500mgs of Test with var or Winny. You don't want to bulk too much because it will take you to a larger weight class.

Remember bro...deca can stick with you for a while after your done with it so keep that in mind for your boxing career(future tests)

Folow M4A3 cycle.
Just keep your diet clean, cos its easy to get fat on deca.

We need your stats to give you proper advice bro...

Originally Posted by the_predator

Remember bro...deca can stick with you for a while after your done with it so keep that in mind for your boxing career(future tests)

Good point, NPP would be better.