Thread: "dry" bulking cycle?

What dose of AI are you using now?

.25mg arimidex ED and .25mg caber 2x a week

cycle is 650 test 300 deca for 14-12 weeks respectively. Forgot to mention I have 20ml of EQ I was going to include in this cycle but decided against it. Would test/tren/eq be better than mast?

Honestly, .25mg of adex aint much for some people. I personally wouldn't do anything less than .5mg of adex ED since i'm prone for bloat and gyno.

I think you should try .5 to 1mg of adex ED. It usually takes care of the bloat for me.

Yeah I will try upping to .5 ED, during my first cycle though going much above .25mg made my joints dry/sore as fuck which is why I've been trying to keep it low this time. I'm gyno prone/paranoid as well so I went with a "more AI is better" approach the first time and ended up with some side effects.

If you like everything else that deca does except the bloat, I'd suggest npp. Got a friend who used deca in every cycle and even deca only cycles (which for him worked with no sides). Right now he's running some dp npp and says he'll never go back to deca again lol. Says he's getting the same results but no bloat and it only took 2 weeks to kick in. Thinking of trying some myself.

Originally Posted by Testoman98

If you like everything else that deca does except the bloat, I'd suggest npp. Got a friend who used deca in every cycle and even deca only cycles (which for him worked with no sides). Right now he's running some dp npp and says he'll never go back to deca again lol. Says he's getting the same results but no bloat and it only took 2 weeks to kick in. Thinking of trying some myself.

I really do like deca so far, it could be the 650mg of test but I'm gaining weight so well I'm thinking of switching to a cut for the end of the cycle. If I can stay at about the same bf and keep gaining I might not need to really.

I don't really get why npp/prop etc are supposed to cause less bloat though? Once the ester's gone it's still the same compound, unless it has to do with having elevated levels all the time with a longer ester? But isn't that what people try to achieve pinning ED/EOD?

Originally Posted by Digitalash

I really do like deca so far, it could be the 650mg of test but I'm gaining weight so well I'm thinking of switching to a cut for the end of the cycle. If I can stay at about the same bf and keep gaining I might not need to really.

I don't really get why npp/prop etc are supposed to cause less bloat though? Once the ester's gone it's still the same compound, unless it has to do with having elevated levels all the time with a longer ester? But isn't that what people try to achieve pinning ED/EOD?

Add GH bro!! You could up the adex to .5 and see how that works. Adding tren would be great at 50 mg oed, but you are on deca so another 19 nor is not a good idea. I tell everyone, you want to get the most out of your aas, add GH.

I would like to but not sure I'm ready for all that lol, or that I can afford it. I've thought of running some peptides but thought I'd get a few more cycles under my belt first without it.

I'm thinking tren will definitely be included at least at a low dose. Would say 200mg a week suffice? I would most likely add in something else like EQ/mast, and possibly increase the tren if everything seems kosher?

You're making it too complicated.

It all comes down to your diet and A/I. Excess carbs and E2 will lead to water retention, increased blood pressure and fat gain.

Keep the diet clean, stay on top of the A/I and let the diet determine what happens to your body.

Originally Posted by CT

You're making it too complicated.

It all comes down to your diet and A/I. Excess carbs and E2 will lead to water retention, increased blood pressure and fat gain.

Keep the diet clean, stay on top of the A/I and let the diet determine what happens to your body.

This^^^

Bump your AI up to .5mg and see if that helps...

You have to very powerful aromatizing compounds running in Test and D-bol. I had to bump up my Aromasin dose when I started my d-bol in week 7 of my cycle.

I would stay away from Mast if your goals is to bulk. I'm running Mast right now and getting ripped to shreds; certainly not bulking though. Mast is best used in a caloric deficit dieting phase when you want to approach the leaner harder cut look while retaining musculature, etc. Maybe adding a dry-type oral to the Test/Deca or Test/EQ cycle such as Tbol would help you achieve a "dry bulk". Assuming, of course, that your diet is on point.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

I really do like deca so far, it could be the 650mg of test but I'm gaining weight so well I'm thinking of switching to a cut for the end of the cycle. If I can stay at about the same bf and keep gaining I might not need to really.

I don't really get why npp/prop etc are supposed to cause less bloat though? Once the ester's gone it's still the same compound, unless it has to do with having elevated levels all the time with a longer ester? But isn't that what people try to achieve pinning ED/EOD?

Thats what I thought too bro. Just always heard its the exact same as deca but kicks in faster. Wish I had some personal experience with one or the other but can only go from what my friend tells me. Personally I was planning on running deca next cycle cause I dont mind waiting a few weeks to kick and didn't wanna have to pin eod with npp. Now my friend is running primo with npp, not sure if that has anything to do with it.