Thread: Day two pain?

Dbol will give you back pumps.

Methylated steroid man, taurine at 10 grams a day will help and run some cycle support. Drop it a week or two after the Dbol. I have it and wondered about the back pump issues, apparently some get them! As for the injection, I can't help you there.

what kind of gear?? what size pin??

pin is 25gauge 5/8'' gear is ugl

my first guess would be the gear has too much BA solvent in it. To fix that you could add some oil, but im not sure if thats whats causing the hard lump. Ive had that before myself, but its been years so i couldnt even tell you why anymore...sorry

yeah its a ugl 300mg/ml test e ... but im going on a hunch that its more like 310-320 the company has a rep for over dosing the oils and underdosing the orals...WHAT kind of oil would i use that would be sterile ?

I remember when I was young n' dumb I did juice, and it hurt like hell. Then I figured using a smaller gauge needle and very slowly applying presure to the top will nearly eliminate pain...I mean take 2-5 min to inject.

Infection and abscess.
So now to the most serious reason for injection pain. An infection will start in the same manner as tissue irritation with local pain and swelling, with heat and redness around the muscle. The major difference is that after 72 hours tissue irritation should start to subside, if the area is indeed infected this pain and swelling will get worse. The swelling will change in nature becoming more systematic and edema will start to form under the skin becoming softer and more spongy (as described with a lymphatic puncture).
There are many reasons why an infection can manifest, below are some of the most common examples.
Poor injection technique. Correct, and sterile injection technique is a must. You must make sure the injection site and rubber stopper is clean and swabbed with an alcohol wipe.
Also the moisture from the alcohol swab must be allowed to dry before preparing to inject. It is extremely rare but if the alcohol is not allowed to dry the bacterium has not been allowed adequate time to be killed off. If this partly destroyed bacterium was then pushed into a muscle through an Inter-muscular injection the bacterium can “evolve” into a superbug. My wife’s horse died this way due to an impatient vet.
You should always use a clean and new syringe barrel and pin and not allow the pin to touch anything before you inject. Avoid pinning through a hair follicle or hair and don’t be tempted to inject too quickly. Injecting too quickly can increase the risk of infection as this in turn increases injection trauma.
Not rotating injection sites. The risk of infection is massively increased if the same injection site is used over and over again without giving it time to recover. The more an injury (injection trauma) is irritated (re-injected) the more likely it is to become infected. Think back to being a child and picking that scab on your knee excessively and then being told “I told you so” when it becomes a yellow puss infected mess.
Contaminated Gear. IMO this is probably the least common cause of infection with oil based injections (I cannot say the same for water based injections). This is a no brainer really. Use a reputable UGL or pharma and avoid water based suspensions.
What to do in the case of an infection.
So the pain and swelling has not subsided and the edema is pitting and moving outside the confides of the muscle fascia after 72 hours. With an infection the body is attempting to contain the bacterium and prevent it from reaching the circulatory system by forming a cyst. This is essential to prevent blood poisoning. Firstly you need anti-biotics to help the body combat the infection, so it’s off the doctor’s office ASAP. The quicker you start treatment the better chance you have of preventing the cyst growing and leaving a nice big hole in the muscle. The problem here is that the bacterium and infection is contained within a cyst which makes it very difficult for the anti-biotics penetrate.
IMO the single most important thing you can do to ensure a rapid recovery, prevent a creator forming in the infected muscle and avoid a “cut and drain” is to self aspirate the cyst. After 4-5 days of pain and after starting the anti-biotics. Take a syringe barrel at least 1ml larger than the injected volume and a very large gauge pin (18 gauge is ideal). This may hurt but the after effects are well worth it. Directly over the injection site the abscess will be the most swollen part, maybe discolored and will be spongy to touch.
Swab the area very well and slowly penetrate the 18g pin directly into the abscess. Keep pushing the pin in and gentaly aspirating every few millimeters until you hit the cyst. Slowly aspirate the cyst. You should be able to draw out the initial volume injected and then some blood and puss. You can expect to drain out 3ml from a 2ml injection 4-5 days post injection. This will give your immune system and the anti-biotics the best chance of fighting the infection. Always complete the course of anti-biotics even if the symptoms and swelling subside.
I once had a minor abbess probably most likely due to poor injection technique. From that day on I have always had impeccable injection technique. I also suggest having a few 18g pins on standby and anti-biotics in place if this is possible for you.
Posted by redman
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got this from basskiller

How may days since injection, injection location, ie quad, glute? Pin size and length? whats your routine?

Dude, 1 month has passed since last response...

Warm oil, press slow, keep clean, small needle, good source, high and out on quad, upper right on glute, middle for delt. Problems solved.

My first pin ever didn't get all the way past the fat in my glute because I was dumb and though I was lean enough to use a 1" pin. I had a huge lump for over a week because the oil being sub q. I haven't made that mistake since and the pins have gotten easier.

Originally Posted by guthixfed

yeah its a ugl 300mg/ml test e ... but im going on a hunch that its more like 310-320 the company has a rep for over dosing the oils and underdosing the orals...WHAT kind of oil would i use that would be sterile ?

Use filtered Grape seed oil and cut it at a 1:1 ratio should take care of the pain issues...

Originally Posted by Evil Eagle

My first pin ever didn't get all the way past the fat in my glute because I was dumb and though I was lean enough to use a 1" pin. I had a huge lump for over a week because the oil being sub q. I haven't made that mistake since and the pins have gotten easier.

what size do recomend for glutes

Glute is best at 1.5" 22+ gauge. Get the smallest needle you can get @ 1.5" for glute injections and do the upper outer quadrant. Make sure you insert the needle perpendicular to the surface of the skin. If you get a lump, don't trip. It'll go away in a few days. Massage it the next day and use a heating pad.