Thread: test or deca alone

Not worth getting shut down for a six week cycle, IMHO.

Lol

So even small amounyts will shut body down ?

deca is the last thing you wanna run without test. just do straight test bro i guarantee you'll enjoy it. do like an 8 week cycle of 350-400mg a week with a good PCT. that should work nicely with your goals if u know what you're doing.

What pct do you recomemnd ?? Is the pct that will determine gyno and hair loss or will that be determind by the test

Originally Posted by premo

What pct do you recomemnd ?? Is the pct that will determine gyno and hair loss or will that be determind by the test

sounds like you need to do some more research bro, no offense. im not gonna spoon feed you what to do before you actually know what you're doing.

read the "first cycle and pct" sticky on the previous page, it's obvious you're not ready for this

An AI will pretty much determine whether you get gyno or not, and people run test alone all the time. I wouldn't run anything else by itself, especially not deca. If you want to keep the cycle short, test prop might be your best bet. Though you'd have to pin every other day. Otherwise Test enanthate at 500mg for 8-10 weeks is probably the way to go.

AGAIN please go research, the info I've given you is NOT enough to do a cycle. Learn about pct, injection technique, dosing schedule, AI (aromatase inhibitor) serm's etc. etc. etc. This isn't something that you just buy a vial off some dude and pin a random amount for an indeterminate time frame and hope everything just works itself out.

Test is usually the base of a cycle... and it wouldnt be smart to do deca alone unless you want deca dik.If your going to do deca you should be running more mgs of test than deca.

test only baby

im not gonna rush into this , infact ive been thinking about this for a long time , gyno and hair loss are my biggest concerns especially as im not looking to get huge which i know most guys on here are, im looking for 5-10ibs max of clean muscle

i did run a couple of courses many years ago with great results but i was under the supervision of a friend who was experienced ,

i was young and the pct stuff didnt really occur to me as much as it does now i just threw in what i was given back then clomid and hcg i belive

nowdays im thinking more about the sides as when i did my course many years ago i did suffer from puffy nips sore nips and small amount of hair loss

Originally Posted by premo

im not gonna rush into this , infact ive been thinking about this for a long time , gyno and hair loss are my biggest concerns especially as im not looking to get huge which i know most guys on here are, im looking for 5-10ibs max of clean muscle

i did run a couple of courses many years ago with great results but i was under the supervision of a friend who was experienced ,

i was young and the pct stuff didnt really occur to me as much as it does now i just threw in what i was given back then clomid and hcg i belive

nowdays im thinking more about the sides as when i did my course many years ago i did suffer from puffy nips sore nips and small amount of hair loss

Read this:

First Cycle and PCT

Years and years ago before I was "educated"(no expert now by any means) I ran a deca only cycle. Trust me, this is not worth your time and effort to run this alone but... here's what happened... a big gut(bad bloat) and a limp dick. Not a great combo I know but I did gain a few pounds and a little strength. Would I run that again knowing what I know now...hell no! Just do some searches and read up on guys posts and stickys and you will get a good idea of what to do.

Y'all quit giving him advice. Obviously he needs to do MUCH more research before he even puts his hand on a pin.

i thought asking questions about people experience and opinions is researching? other wise whats the point of these discussions

you can read alot of info and stickies on here but sometimes its good to hear peoples own take on things through experience

Originally Posted by premo

i thought asking questions about people experience and opinions is researching? other wise whats the point of these discussions

It's fine. But this is a horrible question. Yes, your teacher lied to you. There is such a thing as a horrible question. Read the stickies, then read them again. Make sure you understand the concepts. Google your questions because, rest assured, you're not the first person to ask them.

Not trying to be a dick at all man. You just need a LOT more research. For one, those esters are just going to peak around week 6 and then youre stopping them. That's just the first of many problems of what you've posted.

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