Prescrip Test

**Robert D.** · 01-10-2003, 04:39 PM

because aggression is one of the traits of testosterone just like increased muscle mass, bad breath, body odor, etc.

I guess if you think about it from an evolutionary stand point the male specie needs to be more aggressive to survive, hunt, etc.

Being bald does not necessitate high testosterone levels, it has to do with DHT.

However, the extent of male pattern baldness is not a direct indicator of testosterone levels. The extent of hair loss from pattern baldness is due to a complex interaction of several factors.

see this:
http://www.keratin.com/ac/baldnessbi...virility.shtml

**Mudge** · 01-10-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince Being bald does not necessitate high testosterone levels, it has to do with DHT.

Haven't looked at the link yet, will check it out now. DHT supposedly though is a byproduct of test aromitization, is it not? This is why high test users with MPB in the family seem to lose thier hair prematurely, or supposedly anyway.

DHT seems to be considered pretty evil in other ways, so I wonder if its these waste/byproducts/whatever that are really responsible, anywho off to your link

**Robert D.** · 01-10-2003, 04:53 PM

read the article...

**Mudge** · 01-10-2003, 08:10 PM

joecamp4 · 01-11-2003, 08:25 PM

Hey Prince...For replacement therapy, what do you consider a normal dose. My endo gave me a bottle of 200Mg CYP, and has me on one CC bi-weekly. Im thinking that once weekly would be better. My doc will up the dose for me as long as its within the "normal" thearapeutic range.

Thanks

**Mudge** · 01-12-2003, 02:27 AM

The half life for cyp is 12.5 days I believe.

**Mudge** · 01-16-2003, 12:55 PM

Joe, after running into a few HRT guys 200cc Upjohn cyp E2W is normal, I found one guy on 200mg a week though and everyone was supprised.

joecamp4 · 01-16-2003, 01:54 PM

Thanks Mudge...for my second injection I waited a week..couldnt wait two

..now I will go every other week. I just needed a little kicker...

Thanks again for the info

**Mudge** · 01-16-2003, 02:30 PM

Is this something you will be cycling, or is this a permanent thing? I really can't see wanting to see the doctor even every 2 weeks, but unless your honestly past your prime I wouldn't want to be on permanent HRT either.

So I was just wondering if they were going to let you do this at home or what... you also have more flexibility that way. The guys I've ran into keep the script and run thier own, even if they buy from the local pharmacy, and generally will cycle it off/on 8-12 weeks or so, and just use double thier dose this way as well.

joecamp4 · 01-16-2003, 03:29 PM

oh...I dont see the Dr every 2 weeks, I do it myself at home. I see the doc once every 4 months or so. I will be cycling, but I will keep my prescrips going so I can have some extra around the house "just in case".

I will be following a smiliar cycle as the guys you ran into, I will go 10 weeks on, probably 6-8 off

PB&J · 01-24-2003, 02:57 PM

I finally got into see the endocrinologist and when I showed him my test results he said yeah that's very low. Now he's going to run a bunch of tests and hopefully we can find out what's really causing the low test.

01-10-2003, 04:39 PM	#31
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01-10-2003, 04:53 PM	#33
Robert D. Who Me? Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,422 Photos: 356	read the article... BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

01-10-2003, 08:10 PM	#34
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01-11-2003, 08:25 PM	#35
joecamp4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 107	Hey Prince...For replacement therapy, what do you consider a normal dose. My endo gave me a bottle of 200Mg CYP, and has me on one CC bi-weekly. Im thinking that once weekly would be better. My doc will up the dose for me as long as its within the "normal" thearapeutic range. Thanks I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. - Henry Rollins

01-12-2003, 02:27 AM	#36
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	The half life for cyp is 12.5 days I believe. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

01-16-2003, 12:55 PM	#37
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Joe, after running into a few HRT guys 200cc Upjohn cyp E2W is normal, I found one guy on 200mg a week though and everyone was supprised. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

01-16-2003, 01:54 PM	#38
joecamp4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 107	Thanks Mudge...for my second injection I waited a week..couldnt wait two ..now I will go every other week. I just needed a little kicker... Thanks again for the info I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. - Henry Rollins

01-16-2003, 02:30 PM	#39
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Is this something you will be cycling, or is this a permanent thing? I really can't see wanting to see the doctor even every 2 weeks, but unless your honestly past your prime I wouldn't want to be on permanent HRT either. So I was just wondering if they were going to let you do this at home or what... you also have more flexibility that way. The guys I've ran into keep the script and run thier own, even if they buy from the local pharmacy, and generally will cycle it off/on 8-12 weeks or so, and just use double thier dose this way as well. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

01-16-2003, 03:29 PM	#40
joecamp4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 107	oh...I dont see the Dr every 2 weeks, I do it myself at home. I see the doc once every 4 months or so. I will be cycling, but I will keep my prescrips going so I can have some extra around the house "just in case". I will be following a smiliar cycle as the guys you ran into, I will go 10 weeks on, probably 6-8 off I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. - Henry Rollins

01-24-2003, 02:57 PM	#41
PB&J Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Over there! Posts: 361	I finally got into see the endocrinologist and when I showed him my test results he said yeah that's very low. Now he's going to run a bunch of tests and hopefully we can find out what's really causing the low test.

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