New to T-bol and D-bol. What's the diff?

**ted8541** · 07-19-2011, 07:44 AM

I'm new to using a kickstart. It has been suggested to me by some very knowledgable bros that T-bol or D-bol is the way to go.

Why would I choose one over the other? Why do you prefer one over the other?

Also, how do I run them. I've been told T-bol at 6 weeks at 50mg/d and I've been told D-bol at 5 weeks at 50mg/d. I've also read some threads where guys ran them at 40mg/d and loved it, and other threads where guys ran them at 80mg/d and loved it.

Your thoughts?

Thanks.

**saszeke** · 07-19-2011, 08:01 AM

D-bol is stronger than t-bol on a mg by mg basis. You can run lower doses of d-bol like 30 to 50mg/day and see good results.

With t-bol, I have to run closer to 70 to 100mg/day to feel like it's working. D-bol tends to cause more bloat in some than t-bol. Some say t-bol may give you leaner gains, I am just not much of a t-bol fan.

D-bol is the oral of choice to kick-start especially for mass. Go with d-bol @30mg/day to start and ramp up as needed. I would lump t-bol in with winny/anavar as more of a cutter oral.

Saszeke

**SloppyJ** · 07-19-2011, 08:03 AM

Basically it boils down to T-bol is a drier D-bol. Dbol is unbeatable IMO.

**GMO** · 07-19-2011, 08:54 AM

If you are a first time user of D-bol, you can get away with 30-35mg ED. I would run it for six weeks, as you will continue to make gains throughout that period of time. I usually have to up my AI while on D-bol however to prevent the extra aromatization.

T-bol is a better finisher for a cycle IMO...it is dry, lean gains and increase in strength. It is FAR tamer than d-bol however, and doesn't give you the feeling of well-being that is associated with d-bol.

**ted8541** · 07-19-2011, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by GMO

If you are a first time user of D-bol, you can get away with 30-35mg ED. I would run it for six weeks, as you will continue to make gains throughout that period of time. I usually have to up my AI while on D-bol however to prevent the extra aromatization.

T-bol is a better finisher for a cycle IMO...it is dry, lean gains and increase in strength. It is FAR tamer than d-bol however, and doesn't give you the feeling of well-being that is associated with d-bol.

How does one consume D-bol or T-bol? If the dose is 50 mg/d for example, do you take all 50mg at once or do you stagger throughout the day?

I read that it has a 3.5 - 4 hour life. ???

**SloppyJ** · 07-19-2011, 09:47 AM

If you have 50mg pills take 25mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM. If you get the 10mg's, just space it out throughout the day.

**minimal** · 07-19-2011, 10:24 AM

Dbol rocks! Bloat isnt much of problem if you use enough AI.

**ted8541** · 07-19-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

If you have 50mg pills take 25mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM. If you get the 10mg's, just space it out throughout the day.

Cool. I figured it was something like that. Thanks.

**ted8541** · 07-19-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by minimal

Dbol rocks! Bloat isnt much of problem if you use enough AI.

Do you think 12.5mg/d Aromasin is sufficient to handle bloat. Imagine I would be stacking this with Test C and Primobolan. I'll aslo be taking 500iu HCG/wk as well.

**minimal** · 07-19-2011, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by ted8541

Do you think 12.5mg/d Aromasin is sufficient to handle bloat. Imagine I would be stacking this with Test C and Primobolan. I'll aslo be taking 500iu HCG/wk as well.

I think 12.5 to 25mg ED would work for most people.

**jtterrible** · 07-19-2011, 11:54 AM

tbol vs dbol

some good info on the difference

**GMO** · 07-19-2011, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by minimal

I think 12.5 to 25mg ED would work for most people.

^^^This.

**BigBird** · 07-19-2011, 01:41 PM

I'm pretty sure Tbol half life is around 9 hours or even longer as opposed to around 4.5 hours for Dbol. I've ran Dbol both ways; that is, taken a full daily dose at once and have spaced doses out throughout the day. I actually think my gains were more impressive with one large daily dose but in recent times I've preferred to split up doses. Just my personal preference.

**MDR** · 07-19-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by GMO

If you are a first time user of D-bol, you can get away with 30-35mg ED. I would run it for six weeks, as you will continue to make gains throughout that period of time. I usually have to up my AI while on D-bol however to prevent the extra aromatization.

T-bol is a better finisher for a cycle IMO...it is dry, lean gains and increase in strength. It is FAR tamer than d-bol however, and doesn't give you the feeling of well-being that is associated with d-bol.

Could not have said it better. D-bol is a great kicker IMHO.

**skinnyguy180** · 07-19-2011, 03:08 PM

D-bol for PRESIDENT!!!

**SloppyJ** · 07-19-2011, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by skinnyguy180

D-bol for PRESIDENT!!!

I heard Test was his running mate.

**minimal** · 07-19-2011, 04:11 PM

There's a reason why arnold called dbol the "breakfast of champions"

**ted8541** · 07-19-2011, 08:28 PM

Is it either or?

If I kickstart with dbol for 6 weeks in a 12 week cycle, do I want to finish with tbol the last 6 weeks? Seems a bit much or no?

**minimal** · 07-19-2011, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by ted8541

Is it either or?

If I kickstart with dbol for 6 weeks in a 12 week cycle, do I want to finish with tbol the last 6 weeks? Seems a bit much or no?

that would be 12 weeks of oral which would be considered pretty long.

I'd just do 4 weeks kicker and 4 weeks backload, so your liver has 4 weeks break in between.

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