Thread: Only hcg as pct???

Read the first cycle information written by Heavyiron copied in my signature. Take HCG 500X2 during your cycle and while the ester clears, not during PCT, along with Aromasin. Clomid and Aromasin for PCT. You need a SERM during PCT. Nolva is a terrible choice for PCT.

Why would you want to supress your hpta while in pct? That's what you'll be doing by taking hcg while trying to recover

Originally Posted by mtbbuilder

Alright people, this my first cycle. I have a decade of Bodybuilding experience and I know this is not something to do with when it comes to take juice. I did my homework and researched over 6 months. From being ignored by many people to getting really good advices, and from reading posts on Bodybuilding.com to tnation.com and steroidology.com. But again when it comes to experience = 0. So here I come to ask for the honest advice from the most experienced people been on Juice. Following is the structure of my cycle.
week 1- front load 1000 test start the deca at 300-400 mg
week 2-8 500-750 test/ 300 -400 deca or primobolon.
week 9 500-750 test/ 400 equipoise (this will harden any bloat, keep you vascular)
week 10 - 16 500-750 test/ 400 eqipoise
what’s missing? Yes you are right, there is not PCT, and that is why I am here for. First I thought that I should take Tamioxifen for 4 weeks after 2 weeks of my last Test-E shot (40/40/20/20). Then I thought for further precautions I should also include ADEX of .5mg EOD so that I do not get any sides and or bloating, and also take HCG 500uis ever week during the cycle. But taking all that during the cycle will suppress my gains. I was told and researched as well that I should concentrate on juice during cycle since using any anti-estrogen’s can suppress my gains. So I dropped that part. Now when it comes to PCT, I have couple of questions raising in my mind;
Do I even need any Anti-estrogen since I do not even know that how will I react to my first cycle; also am I even prone to sides?
all it does is confuse your endocrine system and trick it into doing something, when if you do it properly your body will do it on its own with just hcg. If I dont get the sides and difficulties producing your own testosterone than let the body do it... the answer is not always take more drugs!!!! the body is an amazing machine perfectly equipped with everything it needs to remain stable. If you do a smart cycle you will have no problems, if you start abusing and taking way too much juice than you will have problems that need drugs to fix.

This is what I think to run my HCG:

I will start it about 2 weeks before my last shot, tht will make the pct tht much easier when I take a break and the balls will be ready to start producing again once I take the last shot. I do not think first cycle would make me all that sick or mess me up for life? All i would do is get the hcg rolling like 2 weeks before my last shot and continue it till its all gone (total amount 15,000 uis) As for the nolva, again only need tht in extreme cases of prolactin based gyno,something i wont get on test and deca... prolactin based gyno is caused by dht based steroids like , trenbolone, tren ace, masteron..ect.. all stuff I am not taking, it is a estrogen blocker tht centers around the specific strain of estrogen the causes nipple problems in women.. again nothing i will need unless I am running a deep tren cycle... and I wont be doing tht for quite some time if ever...i have my hcg,ai and TAM (Nolva) on hand if i need it. I have the antidites already if I start getting heavy sides, than I will take the antidote, very simple. If I keep my bloodlevels steady I will get little or no sides, if I mess up the injection days all the time and keep increasing doses than I will get more sides... sides only come when your blood levels rise and drop. keep them even and its smooth sailing...

All right so above is what I think is right according to some really mature and experienced users who have been on Juice for more than 10 – 15 – 20 years as well. Over here I need some true advice, opinion on what I am doing is right or not. Want them to understand my post and then answer them with facts of what they have! Even tho I am not experienced with the juice yet but please realize the density of research I did and information I put it in this article. So I appeal to all the respectable experienced member’s to answer this thread with what-ever experience they have and with what they think is right for me being a first timer with all the above compounds. Thank you.

First cycle??????

Read this:

First Cycle and PCT

SOOOOOOOO many things wrong with that cycle man.

what site did you purchase them?

Do not run this cycle for your first cycle . Do as the others have suggested and read a lot more first start here as the others have pointed you First Cycle and PCT