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    next cycle advice

    Well been on cruise for 6 weeks 250mg Test c per week.

    47 Yrs old
    5-9 178lbs
    11%BF

    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 17-20 Trean Ace 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed

    No PCT will cruise again 250mg test C and Armidex .5 EOD

    I am not for sure if i am going to had tren I have really got GREAT results with Test and deca by them selves. Should I wait to use tren once I do not get great results from just two compunds?

    Results looking for- lean Mass.

    Lasy cycle of test and deca was in a recomp mode the whole cycle. gained 2lbs and lost 3% BF and gained A LOT of SIZE

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Well been on cruise for 6 weeks 250mg Test c per week.

    47 Yrs old
    5-9 178lbs
    11%BF

    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 17-20 Trean Ace 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed

    No PCT will cruise again 250mg test C and Armidex .5 EOD

    I am not for sure if i am going to had tren I have really got GREAT results with Test and deca by them selves. Should I wait to use tren once I do not get great results from just two compunds?

    Results looking for- lean Mass.

    Lasy cycle of test and deca was in a recomp mode the whole cycle. gained 2lbs and lost 3% BF and gained A LOT of SIZE

    If you're going 20 weeks, why not give EQ a try at 600mg/wk?

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    good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 17-20 Trean Ace 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed
    No prolactin antagonizer needed for those dosages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    If you're going 20 weeks, why not give EQ a try at 600mg/wk?
    Will give it a try have never used it before. i assume this replaces the test C correct. What benifits do you think I will get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Will give it a try have never used it before. i assume this replaces the test C correct. What benifits do you think I will get?

    it would replace the Deca, EQ is no substitute for test

    Benifits, Increased stamina, Lean Mass, Vasularity, Muscle Hardness
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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Will give it a try have never used it before. i assume this replaces the test C correct. What benifits do you think I will get?

    No, it would replace the deca actually. If you are running deca for joints, you can still run that at 250-300mg/wk with no issues. It will actually be a good combo with the EQ.

    With EQ, you can expect slow and steady lean mass gains, increased vascularity, muscle hardness and a ridiculous appetite. It is a fun AAS, but it has to be run for longer periods of time.

    I would hold off on the Tren until you have a few more cycles under your belt.

    Something like this instead:

    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 EQ 600mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    No, it would replace the deca actually. If you are running deca for joints, you can still run that at 250-300mg/wk with no issues. It will actually be a good combo with the EQ.

    With EQ, you can expect slow and steady lean mass gains, increased vascularity, muscle hardness and a ridiculous appetite. It is a fun AAS, but it has to be run for longer periods of time.

    I would hold off on the Tren until you have a few more cycles under your belt.

    Something like this instead:

    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 EQ 600mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed
    Well i better start looking for some EQ then and will take advice on TREN! I am a steady 178lbs would love to put on 10lbs of lean muscle in 20 weeks!! GMO, Oldschool, I always appreciate your advice! i am learning but have a LONG WAY to go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    No, it would replace the deca actually. If you are running deca for joints, you can still run that at 250-300mg/wk with no issues. It will actually be a good combo with the EQ.

    With EQ, you can expect slow and steady lean mass gains, increased vascularity, muscle hardness and a ridiculous appetite. It is a fun AAS, but it has to be run for longer periods of time.

    I would hold off on the Tren until you have a few more cycles under your belt.

    Something like this instead:

    Week 1-20 Test C 600mg per week
    Week 1-16 Deca 300mg per week
    Week 1-20 EQ 600mg per week
    Week 1-20 Armidex .5 Ed
    ^^^ perfect, at that low dose of Deca, I wouldn't see the need for caber or Prami, the EQ combined with Deca will give your joints a great feeling. That is a solid cycle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    ^^^ perfect, at that low dose of Deca, I wouldn't see the need for caber or Prami
    CT is going to spank your ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfeasance View Post
    CT is going to spank your ass!

    Lol Maybe, But in my experience I have only encountered Prolactin issues at 500mg and higher, Many times I have ran 250-300mg Deca as joint support with no Prolactin blocker, and was fine.

    others may differ
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    I intend to run 300 a week. Is there plenty of early warning for prolactin issues if prami is on hand to take a wait and see approach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfeasance View Post
    I intend to run 300 a week. Is there plenty of early warning for prolactin issues if prami is on hand to take a wait and see approach?
    Prami and Caber will take about a week to take effect, but you can hold off and see how you react.

    Issues most common, are very similar to estro related issues so its hard to decipher the difference.

    But if you are on Aromasin, and you know it good aromasin, and your E2 is in check and your still bloating, have tender nips, prostate may feel under pressure. then start the prami or caber, I prefer Caber, pami made me feel miserable
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    I ran deca 300mg last time and took an AI (armidex) with no issues.

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