Thread: sustanon

Test sust should be run like prop. EOD or ED. Here's what it usually contains.

Isocaproate, Phenylpropionate, Decanoate, and Propionate

Ok, first off you DO NOT run hcg to recover from a test cycle, hcg is to be run during cycle to keep your sweet sack up and running. And sus once a week is a bad idea. Your blood levels will fluxuate dramatically, and you'll see much more sides than you would gains. The absolute minimum sus should be injected is 2 times a week, and even then, i wouldn't recommend anything less than pinning 3 times a week.
It sounds like you are fairly new to aas, so ill recommend that you run a longer estered test like enanthate or cypionate simply because blood levels can be kept stable much easier. But my advice to you is to do much more research, because if you jump into the dark side with the info you've got now, you're going to screw yourself in the long run.
I wish you the absolute best of luck, brother.

Noheawaiian

yes im new to aas, but dont want go heavy thats why i was just goin to have 1 shot a week, so lets say i have test enanthate what would i use when i come off to stop a crash, any advice is appreciated lads cheers

Going one shot a week does not automatically "less heavy." It all depends on how many mg's you have in each dose. For example, it would be much wiser to do 200mg's three times per week than 600mg's per week. Your weekly dose would be the same with each protocol but in no way shape or form is the one dose protocol less heavy. Actually the opposite, if anything, would hold true....600mgs would be a wildly high single dose for a beginner.

Originally Posted by lee7

advice on if i used sus once a week would they be side effects and also would it suppress my test levels to a point where i would need hcg afterwards?

I've used sus250 in three cycles in the past 15 years and I love it. Some guys hate it, but it has always been good to me. Most guys will tell you to take it ED or EOD, but that is not the case. I simply disagree. When I use sust250 I inject 1cc on Sunday night and another on Wednesday night. It's simple and effective.

I'll probably get a lot of shit for posting this, but I'm just tired of hearing guys who have probably never even used sus250 talk it down as a marketing gimmick or state you have to take it EOD or ED. I do believe it should be taking at least twice per week, but I think test e or c should be taken twice per week. How else are you going to get 500+ mg of test in your system per week? Never mind the timing of different esters discussion.

Look, you sound new to this, so read and research as much as you can. I've been to alot of forums, and the guys on this forum are the best. I disagree with some of them some times, but respectfully so, because 90% of them give good advice.

Last, don't run HCG as your PCT. Run it throughout your cycle at about 250iu's 2X week to start. You may need to increase it.... everyone is different. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Noheawaiian

Ok, first off you DO NOT run hcg to recover from a test cycle, hcg is to be run during cycle to keep your sweet sack up and running. And sus once a week is a bad idea. Your blood levels will fluxuate dramatically, and you'll see much more sides than you would gains. The absolute minimum sus should be injected is 2 times a week, and even then, i wouldn't recommend anything less than pinning 3 times a week.
It sounds like you are fairly new to aas, so ill recommend that you run a longer estered test like enanthate or cypionate simply because blood levels can be kept stable much easier. But my advice to you is to do much more research, because if you jump into the dark side with the info you've got now, you're going to screw yourself in the long run.
I wish you the absolute best of luck, brother.

Noheawaiian

^^^Definitely this.

Originally Posted by njc

Going one shot a week does not automatically "less heavy." It all depends on how many mg's you have in each dose. For example, it would be much wiser to do 200mg's three times per week than 600mg's per week. Your weekly dose would be the same with each protocol but in no way shape or form is the one dose protocol less heavy. Actually the opposite, if anything, would hold true....600mgs would be a wildly high single dose for a beginner.

^^^And definitely this.

Originally Posted by ted8541

I've used sus250 in three cycles in the past 15 years and I love it. Some guys hate it, but it has always been good to me. Most guys will tell you to take it ED or EOD, but that is not the case. I simply disagree. When I use sust250 I inject 1cc on Sunday night and another on Wednesday night. It's simple and effective.

I'll probably get a lot of shit for posting this, but I'm just tired of hearing guys who have probably never even used sus250 talk it down as a marketing gimmick or state you have to take it EOD or ED. I do believe it should be taking at least twice per week, but I think test e or c should be taken twice per week. How else are you going to get 500+ mg of test in your system per week? Never mind the timing of different esters discussion.

Look, you sound new to this, so read and research as much as you can. I've been to alot of forums, and the guys on this forum are the best. I disagree with some of them some times, but respectfully so, because 90% of them give good advice.

Last, don't run HCG as your PCT. Run it throughout your cycle at about 250iu's 2X week to start. You may need to increase it.... everyone is different. Good luck.

You can get away with running sust twice a week bro... but it's not going to keep your blood levels very stable and could possibly induce more sides than gains. Glad it worked out for you, but may not for everyone... so it's not fair to the OP to advise him otherwise. Better safe than sorry and why would you want to potentially throw your $$ down the drain. If you're scared of the needle run a longer ester.

Stop what your doing! Open a new tab and read the sticky titled first cycle and pct

sustanon should be injected the way it was intended to be injected.. ONCE A WEEK!!

when you inject EOD or ED as suggested above you actually create uneven blood levels. test prop should be injected ED or EOD.. but sustanon is 4 esthers, 2 of which are long esthers.

Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63

You can get away with running sust twice a week bro... but it's not going to keep your blood levels very stable and could possibly induce more sides than gains. Glad it worked out for you, but may not for everyone... so it's not fair to the OP to advise him otherwise. Better safe than sorry and why would you want to potentially throw your $$ down the drain. If you're scared of the needle run a longer ester.

Twice a week (250mg each inject) and I've never had any sides. Not even a zit. Once a week, and I got acne on my back, oily skin, was very aggressive and extremely irritable. Three times a week and I got acne, oily skin and became very irritable. For my receptors and body, 250mg twice a week is perfect.

I do not believe I am being unfair to the OP and I do not believe I am giving him poor advice. I am simply explaining my opinion based on my experience. Look, nobody on this forum is an Endocrinologist, I don't care how long you have been studying the subject matter. So I give the highest credence to personal experiences. Anyone can school up on this subject and start giving advice, but I don't want to hear about what someone read from a blog or forum or book. I want to hear about your personal experience.

Not to sound like I'm calling you out Pittsburgh, but have you ever completed a full cycle with sus250 as your base test? If so, please elaborate. If not, why not? Just curious.

Also, it has nothing to do with running longer esters because sus guys are afraid of the needle. You forget the reason sus was created in the first place. The main reason was to successfully decrease the number of injections needed by HRT patients.

All that being said, I appreciate you disagreeing with me and looking out for the OP. Again, another reason this forum is so damn good.

Originally Posted by ted8541

Twice a week (250mg each inject) and I've never had any sides. Not even a zit. Once a week, and I got acne on my back, oily skin, was very aggressive and extremely irritable. Three times a week and I got acne, oily skin and became very irritable. For my receptors and body, 250mg twice a week is perfect.

I do not believe I am being unfair to the OP and I do not believe I am giving him poor advice. I am simply explaining my opinion based on my experience. Look, nobody on this forum is an Endocrinologist, I don't care how long you have been studying the subject matter. So I give the highest credence to personal experiences. Anyone can school up on this subject and start giving advice, but I don't want to hear about what someone read from a blog or forum or book. I want to hear about your personal experience.

Not to sound like I'm calling you out Pittsburgh, but have you ever completed a full cycle with sus250 as your base test? If so, please elaborate. If not, why not? Just curious.

Also, it has nothing to do with running longer esters because sus guys are afraid of the needle. You forget the reason sus was created in the first place. The main reason was to successfully decrease the number of injections needed by HRT patients.

All that being said, I appreciate you disagreeing with me and looking out for the OP. Again, another reason this forum is so damn good.

Yeah bro, EOD... ran it 875mg per week with some other compounds. It was great because I didn't have to worry about front loading because of the shorter esters and got the stability with the longer esters... it was a killer cycle. Put on about 35lbs of lbm.

Back in the day a decent cycle was 2 sustanons a week and 3-4 dianabol a day.

Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63

Yeah bro, EOD... ran it 875mg per week with some other compounds. It was great because I didn't have to worry about front loading because of the shorter esters and got the stability with the longer esters... it was a killer cycle. Put on about 35lbs of lbm.

Nice. I love sus250.