2nd cycle revision

**Vibrant** · 08-03-2011, 09:00 PM

i was planning my second cycle but because i still havent received my gear from a sponsor

, i have to change up my cycle.

my cycle was originally supposed to be:

1-4 dbol 20mg
1-8 proviron???? at 50-100mg
1-8 adex at .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5
nolva on hand just in case

but i cant do it because i dont have gear. so i was thinking something like this:

1-4 dbol 25mg
1-12 test e 500mg or 1-15 test e 500mg
1-11 Eq 400mg or 1-14 eq 400mg
on cycle adex at .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5
nolva on hand just in case

my questions for this cycle are mostly about eq. here they are:

1. is 400mg of eq enough for a first time? id like to keep the dose not that high but will bump it up 600mg if everyone thinks i should.

2. whats the optimal length of time to run eq? keep in mind im not a big fan of long cycles, but i really want to try eq so im kinda stuck on what length to run it?

thanks for the help.

**MDR** · 08-03-2011, 11:16 PM

I think personally that 600 for 16 weeks is the way to go with the EQ, but I'm sure that won't work too well for you considering you are looking to keep things short. I like to run a bit more than that personally, but EQ isn't all that effective for me in lower doses.

**Vibrant** · 08-03-2011, 11:24 PM

I think I should also clarify that the reason I want to try eq is it's ability to raise rbc. That's important for me because I'm an athlete first bodybuilder second. High rbc increase endurance, I was even considering epo but imo that's a little dangerous without doctor supervision.

**Vibrant** · 08-03-2011, 11:28 PM

Can't edit first post for some reason but I also planned for my original second cycle to run test prop 500mg 1-8. Just wanted to say that so you guys don't think I was planning on running an oral without test, lol.

**GMO** · 08-04-2011, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by MDR

I think personally that 600 for 16 weeks is the way to go with the EQ, but I'm sure that won't work too well for you considering you are looking to keep things short. I like to run a bit more than that personally, but EQ isn't all that effective for me in lower doses.

^^^This

I usually recommend runs of 16-20 wks with EQ at 600mg/wk minimum for optimal results. You can run it for 14 weeks if you want, but you'll def have to up the dose to 600mg.

**flexxthese** · 08-04-2011, 04:54 AM

600 for eq atleast brother. You'll be happy.

**ANIMALHAUS** · 08-04-2011, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Can't edit first post for some reason but I also planned for my original second cycle to run test prop 500mg 1-8. Just wanted to say that so you guys don't think I was planning on running an oral without test, lol.

Well that pretty much sums up my "option 2 is a much better choice" speech. HAHAHA. I still like the way your 2nd cycle is laid out, but thats just my opinion. I would also stretch it out for 15 weeks.

**Vibrant** · 08-04-2011, 09:02 AM

thanks for the help guys. i think I'll do 15 weeks of eq at 600mg and 16weeks of test. i guess will reevaluate my cycle at around 12weeks and i will see if i want to push the cycle beyond 16weeks, how does this sound?

**ANIMALHAUS** · 08-04-2011, 11:51 AM

This is your 2nd cycle, and I think you would really benefit from running the enanthate for a full 16 weeks.

**XYZ** · 08-04-2011, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by MDR

I think personally that 600 for 16 weeks is the way to go with the EQ, but I'm sure that won't work too well for you considering you are looking to keep things short. I like to run a bit more than that personally, but EQ isn't all that effective for me in lower doses.

^This.

16 weeks minimum at 600mg. Anything less is a waste, unless you frontload and run at least 1g of EQ with test.

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