Thread: Can Clomid be used instead of Adex...?

Nah, clomid wont prevent gyno.
Letrozole will.

cant use clomid instead of adex, but u can use nolvadex but it wont be as effective as adex

Originally Posted by maged

cant use clomid instead of adex, but u can use nolvadex but it wont be as effective as adex

Nolva blocks estrogen at the receptor adex kills estrogen completely.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Nolva blocks estrogen at the receptor adex kills estrogen completely.

thats why i said it wont be effective as adex, but it is used to battle gyno

I like nolva better personally. I domt like to run an ai throughout as some edtrogen means water retention. Having the extra wster helps the joints when lifting heavy, and you look bigger lol. So i use nolva if i feel a little tingly in the nips.

...tamoxifen (Nolvadex) inhibits IGF-1 release from the liver - not a great way to put on size...

Read more from this MESO-Rx article at: Ask Dave Palumbo #5 (The Truth According to Palumbo)

Originally Posted by Dannie

...tamoxifen (Nolvadex) inhibits IGF-1 release from the liver - not a great way to put on size...

Read more from this MESO-Rx article at: Ask Dave Palumbo #5 (The Truth According to Palumbo)

That's why nolva should not be used to replace an AI over the course, but works well as an on the spot treatment as D-Latsky stated. It's only used for a short period.

Exactly. Like i said i dont run an ai the entire cucle the nolva is incase of flare ups ONLY.

Originally Posted by maged

cant use clomid instead of adex, but u can use nolvadex but it wont be as effective as adex

clomid is a serm so it should also prevent gyno, maybe slightly less effective than nolva with more side effects though


using a serm throughout your cycle isn't the best idea, and probably won't do much for water retention, but it'd be better than nothing imo. Order some more adex ASAP.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Exactly. Like i said i dont run an ai the entire cucle the nolva is incase of flare ups ONLY.

Not really, nolva has 14 days half life, thus its better to use letro.

Originally Posted by Dannie

Not really, nolva has 14 days half life, thus its better to use letro.

Nolva works perfectly well if you begin using it at the earliest signs of gyno symptoms. If you ignore these it let it advance too far then letro is better suited. It all depends on how vigilant you are about your own health and welfare.

Originally Posted by Dannie

Not really, nolva has 14 days half life, thus its better to use letro.

Bro I swear we disagree on everything lol! You uk guys have a whole different bunch of info than we do, So I guess we will just agree to disagree.
Also the half life only pertains to how long its in your system not how quickly it takes effect lol!

Originally Posted by Dannie

Not really, nolva has 14 days half life, thus its better to use letro.

Nolva begins blocking estrogen receptors as soon as it hits your blood. Letro won't begin working until all the estrogen already in your body is broken down, and you don't have enough aromatase to produce more. Not sure how long exactly that takes but I believe it's more than 24 hours.

Originally Posted by KUVinny

Nolva works perfectly well if you begin using it at the earliest signs of gyno symptoms. If you ignore these it let it advance too far then letro is better suited. It all depends on how vigilant you are about your own health and welfare.

Thats right, nolva will work fine, but will suppress muscle growth.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Bro I swear we disagree on everything lol! You uk guys have a whole different bunch of info than we do, So I guess we will just agree to disagree.
Also the half life only pertains to how long its in your system not how quickly it takes effect lol!

Yeah we do, dont we? The info I share comes from americano dudes, I am sure you've head about USA

As for half life, if Nolva has a half life of 14 days and a subject is gonna use it for X days then the amount of nolva in subject's system its gonna accumulate to some big number and its gonna takes weeks to clear out. Now remember the quote about nolva inhibiting IGF-1 release?

Search the web you will find more info about it.
The abstact I've quated was from Dave Palumbo Qs and As. You can follow the link and read more. Dan Duchaine wrote about it ages ago.

Heres more another worth reading article about nolva inhibiting muscle growth (estrogen related)
NOLVADEX: inhibits muscle growth! - Anabolicminds.com

So the answer is no to Clomid

Originally Posted by dippa66

So the answer is no to Clomid

Correct

Yeah, and we gave you some ideas of what can be used instead

You said you are only cruising at the moment, so whenever you need it depends if you are bothered with slight water retention and how prone to gyno are you.
I have run cycles with up to 600mg of Test weekly and never got gyno but was really bloated with water
The only veins I could see were the ones or my dick

Listen Here is my opinion. You should order yourself some Aromasin. Take the aromasin eod to e3d for estrogen maintaince at 12.5mgs . Aromasin is easier on the lipids than adex. Increases IGF1 as well as free test. Aromasin is better at controling estrogen and will not drop it to low like Letro. Letro is hard on the lipids as well. Aromasin is a steroidal aromatase inhibitor and actually can boost androgens. The answer for any On Cycle AI or PCT AI is Aromasin IMO. Yes adex is good enough and nolva is good in an emergency but overall Aromasin is best IMO. There are plenty of articles on this. Best way to see is to use Aromasin at e3d and get blood work done to see where your E2 levels are so you know whether to go up or down on dose. So my advice is to order Aromasin right away and in the mean time if you have estrogenic sides which I doubt you will in this small time period you can run the clomid if need be. Clomid is a SERM and works similar to Nolva but not quite as effectively at preventing Gyno still does the job in an emergency though.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Listen Here is my opinion. You should order yourself some Aromasin. Take the aromasin eod to e3d for estrogen maintaince at 12.5mgs . Aromasin is easier on the lipids than adex. Increases IGF1 as well as free test. Aromasin is better at controling estrogen and will not drop it to low like Letro. Letro is hard on the lipids as well. Aromasin is a steroidal aromatase inhibitor and actually can boost androgens. The answer for any On Cycle AI or PCT AI is Aromasin IMO. Yes adex is good enough and nolva is good in an emergency but overall Aromasin is best IMO. There are plenty of articles on this. Best way to see is to use Aromasin at e3d and get blood work done to see where your E2 levels are so you know whether to go up or down on dose. So my advice is to order Aromasin right away and in the mean time if you have estrogenic sides which I doubt you will in this small time period you can run the clomid if need be. Clomid is a SERM and works similar to Nolva but not quite as effectively at preventing Gyno still does the job in an emergency though.

Thanks for all the feedback

now if someone knows a good site to get some Aromasin, that just might get through customs here, please PM ME

should you use aromasin or adex on a Test cycle? is it imperative?

Exemestane 25mg x 30ml

not sure about the custom's thing, just noticed that. good luck man

Yes it is best to use an AI during your on cycle. I prefer Aromasin for the reasons stated above. If you don't use an AI you are risking estrogenic side effects. Some estrogen is good for mass building but too much is not good for anyone. Best to take a mild dose of an AI to control E2 levels while on cycle.

Ok this will be my 2nd test cycle and I'll try a low dose AI this time around...I only did pct last cycle with cortisol control and clomid for 4 weeks. So what dosage of aroma is good, 25 mg ed/eod?

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Listen Here is my opinion. You should order yourself some Aromasin. Take the aromasin eod to e3d for estrogen maintaince at 12.5mgs . Aromasin is easier on the lipids than adex. Increases IGF1 as well as free test. Aromasin is better at controling estrogen and will not drop it to low like Letro. Letro is hard on the lipids as well. Aromasin is a steroidal aromatase inhibitor and actually can boost androgens. The answer for any On Cycle AI or PCT AI is Aromasin IMO. Yes adex is good enough and nolva is good in an emergency but overall Aromasin is best IMO. There are plenty of articles on this. Best way to see is to use Aromasin at e3d and get blood work done to see where your E2 levels are so you know whether to go up or down on dose..

Originally Posted by Ahrnold

Ok this will be my 2nd test cycle and I'll try a low dose AI this time around...I only did pct last cycle with cortisol control and clomid for 4 weeks. So what dosage of aroma is good, 25 mg ed/eod?

thanks bro!

Does ANYONE realize that clomid INCREASES estrogen? THUS causing this question to be completely and totally insane?

A SERM and and A/I are two totally different things.